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Electrobes
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I've looked up what you've suggested and couldn't find it in his various articles. Could you link me to it? I've read numerous articles of Randy's and I don't remember him saying that... I am legitimately curious, and would definitely like to read the article he states that in.
BobbyV
Established since 2008
Here is a start .. .. the guy has thousands of comments in RC threads .. .. .. you start one and then one relates to another, and then another, then of course it matters whatever search engine you are using .. .. and etc.
But in summary the last thread that I read was that Randy hasn't used GFO in at least a year plus due to unfavorable effects leading to potential insoluable toxicities in the material.
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/rhf/index.htm
aguila88psi
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I'm also anti GFO 
rogergolf66
im an addict lol
I also don't use GFO
BobbyV
Established since 2008
rogergolf66
im an addict lol
Bobby I have watched that video before. It doesn't answer any questions on the aluminum?
BobbyV
Established since 2008
Never said it did .. .. ..
By the way, I sure wish you hung out longer last night on line .. .. .. Pedro made the effort!
aguila88psi
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Didn't get anything from wwc :/ but I scored some gemstone palys from the planet zoa sale , was mainly trying to get the bounce mushroom they had at the end but it was $400 for too small of a frag, I was hoping for a bigger frag, oh well.
, was mainly trying to get the bounce mushroom they had at the end but it was $400 for too small of a frag, I was hoping for a bigger frag, oh well.
BobbyV
Established since 2008
Didn't get anything from wwc :/ but I scored some gemstone palys from the planet zoa sale
All of your corals survive the trip to AZ? You should post pictures of your new set up when you get a chance.
aguila88psi
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Haven't moved them yet, planning on shipping everything out right after turkey day if I can find a decent setup over here.
Electrobes
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Randy actually endorses the use of GFO for its intentioned purpose, in the article you've linked. I think his biggest worry were GFO's effects on Alkalinity.
So after looking around the related articles of his and some of the threads about the topic I finally asked Randy himself, and he currently uses GFO in this system. This is what I thought initially, which is why I asked you for references to your remark.
Please be careful when referencing someone else, especially someone as well known as he is in the hobby, as people listening/reading may take your word for it and act accordingly.
Randy actually endorses the use of GFO for its intentioned purpose, in the article you've linked. I think his biggest worry were GFO's effects on Alkalinity.
So after looking around the related articles of his and some of the threads about the topic I finally asked Randy himself, and he currently uses GFO in this system. This is what I thought initially, which is why I asked you for references to your remark.
Please be careful when referencing someone else, especially someone as well known as he is in the hobby, as people listening/reading may take your word for it and act accordingly.
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ChadRaay86
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I remember reading Randy's observations regarding alk drops and GFO. Helped me track down why I was going through so much alk at the time.
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/rhf/
He also mentioned the aluminum based phosphate removers and an experiment that he had done that showed soft corals getting angry at aluminum oxide use. Personally, I used aluminum oxide based phosphate remover for a long time and saw no ill effects. That being said, I rinsed it out thoroughly each time I used it.
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2003/7/chemistry
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-09/rhf/
What works in this hobby for some might not work for others, no reason to get nasty. Personally, if I ever decide to go the bio-block route it will be as supplementation and in a very small quantity to start
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/rhf/
He also mentioned the aluminum based phosphate removers and an experiment that he had done that showed soft corals getting angry at aluminum oxide use. Personally, I used aluminum oxide based phosphate remover for a long time and saw no ill effects. That being said, I rinsed it out thoroughly each time I used it.
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2003/7/chemistry
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-09/rhf/
What works in this hobby for some might not work for others, no reason to get nasty. Personally, if I ever decide to go the bio-block route it will be as supplementation and in a very small quantity to start
Electrobes
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Who do you think is getting nasty? I am not angry or anything like that... I honestly couldn't word what I wrote any more neutral. I do worry about other people being mis-quoted (Especially those whose name carries a lot of weight) which is why I said anything in response.
I understand what may work for some may not work for others, but my point was geared towards data sharing and evidence... Not undocumented observation. RHF functions on evidence based reef keeping... And most people who have heard of him know that. It's why I took notice of Bobby's remark of what he claimed Randy has said. It was counter to what I had read from his articles, and I was afraid I mis-read those articles or his comments. I pursued Bobby's comment out of curiosity because I thought I was wrong, not because I thought Bobby was wrong. I doubted myself before Bobby and wanted to learn from that. Funny enough, thanks to Bobby, I learned a couple more things about GFO that I did not know!
I remember reading Randy's observations regarding alk drops and GFO. Helped me track down why I was going through so much alk at the time.
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/rhf/
He also mentioned the aluminum based phosphate removers and an experiment that he had done that showed soft corals getting angry at aluminum oxide use. Personally, I used aluminum oxide based phosphate remover for a long time and saw no ill effects. That being said, I rinsed it out thoroughly each time I used it.
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2003/7/chemistry
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-09/rhf/
What works in this hobby for some might not work for others, no reason to get nasty. Personally, if I ever decide to go the bio-block route it will be as supplementation and in a very small quantity to start
Who do you think is getting nasty? I am not angry or anything like that... I honestly couldn't word what I wrote any more neutral. I do worry about other people being mis-quoted (Especially those whose name carries a lot of weight) which is why I said anything in response.
I understand what may work for some may not work for others, but my point was geared towards data sharing and evidence... Not undocumented observation. RHF functions on evidence based reef keeping... And most people who have heard of him know that. It's why I took notice of Bobby's remark of what he claimed Randy has said. It was counter to what I had read from his articles, and I was afraid I mis-read those articles or his comments. I pursued Bobby's comment out of curiosity because I thought I was wrong, not because I thought Bobby was wrong. I doubted myself before Bobby and wanted to learn from that. Funny enough, thanks to Bobby, I learned a couple more things about GFO that I did not know!
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ChadRaay86
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It was headed that way. No worries though
Electrobes
Montipora type guy
Whoops I edited after you saw, it wasn't heading that way, you'll understand if you read what I added above.
BobbyV
Established since 2008
Dear Mr. Electrobes,
1. My observations are that you are an intense and or super passionate person. I can relate to this. But I want to remind myself that this is a hobby meant for enjoyment and making new friends.
2. You should consider reviewing my posts again.
In summary: I referred to "Randy" having thousands of posts and I read somewhere that he wasn't a huge fan of GFO.
You wanted me to find this for you since you had to make a big deal, so here you go.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1719648
So maybe you should consider being careful when referencing others. Largely known in the hobby or not.
Forums are open for all to discuss.
This is a safe place my man, for all reef nerds to find refuge.
In conclusion, Maybe chill out a little .. ..
Electrobes
Montipora type guy
I am surprised by your reaction, but I guess this misunderstanding will unfortunately remain so, especially given that emotion is poorly depicted in typing formats.
I have reviewed your posts and I wish you would have posted that above thread earlier.. I would have noticed it was from 2009 (I assumed you meant the present) and he only mentions soluble iron as a possible/potential outcome in that post. Your earlier statements (As you can see above) made more specific remarks about his use and views of GFO that are contradictory and I questioned it out of curiosity.
Forums are open for all to discuss.. I don't disagree with you there, which is why I am confused as to you taking my responses/questions as aggression. I assume we all seek the truth, and discussion is key to that.
Anyways I'll end it on that, I don't want to derail this thread any further, and I apologize to those who feel like I have.
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