Mark's 150 gallon

[markalot]

New scape with the stylo moved. The white area in front is alive but has been shaded so it will take a couple of weeks to color up.



Corals look better once again so I believe I'm moving away from whatever happened. I will continue to monitor the night critters to see if they fade once acro health improves.

 

[.Chris.]

What did you use to kill the pallys in the end? I may have missed it. Was it just coral putty?

 

[markalot]

The fundip tenuis hasn't lost any color. I double checked PAR, 510 at the base of this one.

 

[markalot]

What did you use to kill the pallys in the end? I may have missed it. Was it just coral putty?

Didn't kill them, just covered. I used Water Weld, 8 sticks total. I carefully blanket the polyps and glue heavily on either side. I have to be careful not to smash any of the pallys because just a little toxin from these can brown/kill an acro. 6 months ago a tried to scrape a few off a rock and my big slimer completely browned and took a month to get the green back.

With the center pieces covered and removal of infested rocks I've knocked these bastards way back. Next step is to use Kalk paste on the back wall to kill a few that are growing there. I haven't decided if I want to break up the left side and remove infested rocks yet since that would mean tearing up the red cap. I will probably do it at some point.

 

[.Chris.]

Didn't kill them, just covered. I used Water Weld, 8 sticks total. I carefully blanket the polyps and glue heavily on either side. I have to be careful not to smash any of the pallys because just a little toxin from these can brown/kill an acro. 6 months ago a tried to scrape a few off a rock and my big slimer completely browned and took a month to get the green back.

With the center pieces covered and removal of infested rocks I've knocked these bastards way back. Next step is to use Kalk paste on the back wall to kill a few that are growing there. I haven't decided if I want to break up the left side and remove infested rocks yet since that would mean tearing up the red cap. I will probably do it at some point.

Interesting. Are you hoping they'll die on their own this way without releasing the toxin?

I ask because I have a zoa problem I want to get rid of and am considering puttying over them. I don't think they're as toxic as pallys? I tried kalk to no effect.

 

[markalot]

Interesting. Are you hoping they'll die on their own this way without releasing the toxin?

I ask because I have a zoa problem I want to get rid of and am considering puttying over them. I don't think they're as toxic as pallys? I tried kalk to no effect.

When covered they shrivel up and turn white. In my experience when in this state you can peal them back without any damage, as if the toxin is all gone. I believe they only release toxin when disturbed but I really don't know.

 

[mhucasey]

Mark, going back to the issues with the corals you've had recently, what additives have you used before or during that time? Do you dose equal parts of the 2-part?

 

[markalot]

Mark, going back to the issues with the corals you've had recently, what additives have you used before or during that time? Do you dose equal parts of the 2-part?

Only using Kalk and occasionally adding Mag to keep it around 1300. I did use Spongepower, which did a nice job extending the tips of the blue stag, but stopped when the trouble began. Remember this was happening to the Lokani months ago, then seemed to fade, then started up again.

The story with me is always the same. Too many things, too many changes, not enough patience. :clown:

I've upped my water change routine to twice a week after a few large changes and backed off the LEDs to lower overall PAR. My thought on water changes was if there was some kind of imbalance, maybe a buildup of some product I was using, water changes should slowly sort it all out.

It was recommended I cut the LED's entirely until this was sorted out but I haven't done that yet. In fact I now run the blue LED's at their lowest level for 14 hours to give the critters less darkness to work with. I ramp up to 40% max (used to be 100%) and then drop to 20% while the T5's are on.

So far it seems to be working.

 

[mhucasey]

Only using Kalk and occasionally adding Mag to keep it around 1300. I did use Spongepower, which did a nice job extending the tips of the blue stag, but stopped when the trouble began. Remember this was happening to the Lokani months ago, then seemed to fade, then started up again.

The story with me is always the same. Too many things, too many changes, not enough patience. :clown:

I've upped my water change routine to twice a week after a few large changes and backed off the LEDs to lower overall PAR. My thought on water changes was if there was some kind of imbalance, maybe a buildup of some product I was using, water changes should slowly sort it all out.

It was recommended I cut the LED's entirely until this was sorted out but I haven't done that yet. In fact I now run the blue LED's at their lowest level for 14 hours to give the critters less darkness to work with. I ramp up to 40% max (used to be 100%) and then drop to 20% while the T5's are on.

So far it seems to be working.

I'm glad it's working. I was asking because the skin looks dried out and thin, which can be a symptom of overdosing Strontium or Iodine(perhaps other things as well). With you using Kalk there shouldn't be an imbalance forming so it's pretty strange. Do you use GAC?

 

[markalot]

I'm glad it's working. I was asking because the skin looks dried out and thin, which can be a symptom of overdosing Strontium or Iodine(perhaps other things as well). With you using Kalk there shouldn't be an imbalance forming so it's pretty strange. Do you use GAC?

I did when I worked with the epoxy, a bag of ROX in the sump, but I took it out after a day. Normally I don't run it but man, my water was yellow.

So I did dose Seachem Strontium, 3 days in a row two weeks ago, just to see if I could jump start some coraline. The fact you said this makes me think I must have overdosed. I do have a lot of coraline growing, even on the dead tips of some SPS. :headwally: I tossed the bottle. I swear I was using just a smidge of the normal dose.

This is worrisome

http://www.zeovit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11041

RC Version
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1244429

 

[mhucasey]

I did when I worked with the epoxy, a bag of ROX in the sump, but I took it out after a day. Normally I don't run it but man, my water was yellow.

So I did dose Seachem Strontium, 3 days in a row two weeks ago, just to see if I could jump start some coraline. The fact you said this makes me think I must have overdosed. I do have a lot of coraline growing, even on the dead tips of some SPS. :headwally: I tossed the bottle. I swear I was using just a smidge of the normal dose.

This is worrisome

http://www.zeovit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11041

RC Version
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1244429

Bingo! The Amphiopods are just cleaning up the mess.

 

[markalot]

Bingo! The Amphiopods are just cleaning up the mess.

Thanks for thinking of this, I really appreciate the help. Hopefully the water changes have turned it around but I will continue just in case.

 

[mhucasey]

Thanks for thinking of this, I really appreciate the help. Hopefully the water changes have turned it around but I will continue just in case.

Even without water changes it will get used up slowly and decline. I'm pretty gunshy about using it after a couple bouts of the dry corals.

 

[biggles]

I was going to say it's the strontium.............. :reading: :spin3:

Good work Matt :beer:

Maybe chuck the strontium bottle away Mark

 

[markalot]

I was going to say it's the strontium.............. :reading: :spin3:

Good work Matt :beer:

Maybe chuck the strontium bottle away Mark

Hi Andrew,

it has been chucked.

So to confirm the strontium issue ... look at the dead tips of the recovering nasuta. I don't think I've ever seen coraline grow that quickly. :lol:

I did another 10 gallon change today, with gravel vac to suck out some pretty ugly brown water. Things do look to be getting back to normal.

If these two suffered I'm not seeing it.

Watching the base of the reddish Aussie piece. The dry line starts almost out of view, top middle of the picture. it makes the letter C on the base.

Not every acro seemed to mind the strontium. The horrida is looking healthy and showing new growth.

The red dragon, at some point since I last looked, has put on some significant new growth.

*crosses fingers*

 

[nemodan]

Mark, I was reading these last post and I am very happy that tank and pods issues are being solved.

Now let the tank recover. Too many changes in a short time. But finally all for good !!!!

Cheers
Daniel

 

[mhucasey]

Hi Andrew,

it has been chucked.

So to confirm the strontium issue ... look at the dead tips of the recovering nasuta. I don't think I've ever seen coraline grow that quickly. :lol:

I did another 10 gallon change today, with gravel vac to suck out some pretty ugly brown water. Things do look to be getting back to normal.

If these two suffered I'm not seeing it.

Watching the base of the reddish Aussie piece. The dry line starts almost out of view, top middle of the picture. it makes the letter C on the base.

Not every acro seemed to mind the strontium. The horrida is looking healthy and showing new growth.

The red dragon, at some point since I last looked, has put on some significant new growth.

*crosses fingers*

That's crazy with the Coraline growing on the tips

 

[biggles]

Looking at the delicate red dragon's new growth i think you're well on the road to recovery Mark. It might take a few weeks for some of the worst affected acros to fully bounce back though.

Keep us updated with how things progress week to week please buddy, pics are obviously a must. :wave:

 

[plyle02]

Mark, how goes it Those are some killer new pick ups, the deepwater looks like the Dustin's Deepwater Acro, I think ORA lost the mother, anyway, a nice score nonetheless. And that fundip tenuis, well that is going to be a sick piece when it grows out. How are the acro bugs, any update?

 

[markalot]

Looking at the delicate red dragon's new growth i think you're well on the road to recovery Mark. It might take a few weeks for some of the worst affected acros to fully bounce back though.

Keep us updated with how things progress week to week please buddy, pics are obviously a must. :wave:

Thanks, I hope you're right. :beer:

Mark, how goes it Those are some killer new pick ups, the deepwater looks like the Dustin's Deepwater Acro, I think ORA lost the mother, anyway, a nice score nonetheless. And that fundip tenuis, well that is going to be a sick piece when it grows out. How are the acro bugs, any update?

Hi Perry, thanks! The bugs are waning, I believe they are a symptom of a Strontium overdose rather than a cause of anything, but I still need to wait it out to make sure.

Speaking of deepwater / smooth skin ... I have not touched the Lokani for a couple of weeks. During a water change a few days ago this popped out of the sand and looked alive. Being the acro greedy person that I am I mounted it to a plug and waited. It's a piece of that darn Lokani ... still alive! That thing is unkillable. I need more.

The other pleasant surprise was the white / light blue maricultured piece. it started to go downhill a few weeks ago so I fragged it, dipped it, and put in the frag rack. It's so hairy I can't tell if it's gaining color. :lmao:

Random shot of the Fundip, KBG, Miami Orchid