Mark's 150 gallon

You can make your own two part to dose using Randy Holmes Farley recipe and not bake the baking soda and that'll help with ph I agree 2 part will give will give you a little bit more stability at the moment. The reason being you can set it to give it at exactly the same times for a period of time

Hi Andrew, thanks. I have TLF C-Balance sitting in the dosers, just not used at the moment. I have low evaporation and used a timed topoff rather than sensor based, which allows exact Kalk dosing. I shoot a little low and usually have to add a little RODI every other day.

So here's what it looks like, just for reference. It's not pretty but works for now. I mounted the stag frags to block plugs while in the 3rd rinse, then once stable on the plugs I mounted the plugs to the rocks in the tank. If/when the corals return to health I'll worry about prettying it up.

Colors have returned big time to some acro frags, others remain brown, others might be too far gone to wake up. Time to watch and wait.



Teal stag has browned but polyp extension greatly improved.
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How is your coralline growth? . Does algae grow on your coralline? I'm just getting to get my information on your situation.
 
How is your coralline growth? . Does algae grow on your coralline? I'm just getting to get my information on your situation.

Howdy, thanks for stopping by.

I may have overdosed strontium months back, though it shows normal on the Triton, so I have coraline on most of the dead areas on acros. :) Coraline is strong and fast on everything.

Whatever happened is over IMO, just needing to evaluate and clean up what can't recover. My little half dead frag of Hawkins echinata is showing some intense color and starting to grow, which makes me extremely happy. I feel like I'm at the point where I was almost exactly one year ago when the tank had recovered but I was still evaluating which acros were alive and which ones were zombies.

Here's the echi from a few days ago. Note the coraline on the dead tips. :D
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One month ago, twisted a bit.
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Skimmer question. Since removing the outdoor line it's been a lot easier to dial in. I am running the bubble break line about halfway up the neck inside the cup which produces about 1/2 inch skimmate in 12 hours. Nice rich dark brown. Any thoughts on this level of skimming?

This was last night, an hour after cleaning it.
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Howdy, thanks for stopping by.

I may have overdosed strontium months back, though it shows normal on the Triton, so I have coraline on most of the dead areas on acros. :) Coraline is strong and fast on everything.

Whatever happened is over IMO, just needing to evaluate and clean up what can't recover. My little half dead frag of Hawkins echinata is showing some intense color and starting to grow, which makes me extremely happy. I feel like I'm at the point where I was almost exactly one year ago when the tank had recovered but I was still evaluating which acros were alive and which ones were zombies.

Here's the echi from a few days ago. Note the coraline on the dead tips. :D
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One month ago, twisted a bit.
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Skimmer question. Since removing the outdoor line it's been a lot easier to dial in. I am running the bubble break line about halfway up the neck inside the cup which produces about 1/2 inch skimmate in 12 hours. Nice rich dark brown. Any thoughts on this level of skimming?

This was last night, an hour after cleaning it.
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That looks good, perhaps a tiny bit drier would be where I set mine. Lately my skimmer has been hard to dial in, I cleaned the needle wheel and it became way more efficient, then something in the water cause it to go nuts in the last week or so. I think it's settling down to look more like yours now.
 
Mark I'm excited to hear that you feel everything is behind you! Your tank looks so different now, but in the end who knows, it may be a good thing. It will be interesting to see how things develop from here.
 
Nice to see things may be on the upswing. That echi does look much better.
Mark, being completely objective and sitting back in my armchair, it seems to me that you deal with your stress by fussing over the tank.. Now, I think there is good fussing and bad fussing.. I kind of feel like you are doing a bit of both..
You really are in the tank a lot.. I know that you are trying to improve the current situation and I think some of the things you are doing are helping. The skimmer work looks good..
But the gfo ups and downs and the chopping of corals... I'm not sure this is helping so much..
I'm with Kevin when he said 'take a step back'..
Sorry, I don't want to offend with my beer holding armchair comments.. I know I'm not working and looking at your tank every day, you are. But I get this frantic sense from your posts and I KNOW that frantic feeling... It is how I was before crashing my system because I was trying to do this and do that and waiting a day to see improvements instead of waiting the month that it usually takes to see improvements..
I'm glad you got the po4 testing ironed out.. That should help.. Stability, as you know, is key and keeping your hands out of the tank can go a long way towards stability..
I hope I'm not sounding like an a** here..
 
Nice to see things may be on the upswing. That echi does look much better.
Mark, being completely objective and sitting back in my armchair, it seems to me that you deal with your stress by fussing over the tank.. Now, I think there is good fussing and bad fussing.. I kind of feel like you are doing a bit of both..
You really are in the tank a lot.. I know that you are trying to improve the current situation and I think some of the things you are doing are helping. The skimmer work looks good..
But the gfo ups and downs and the chopping of corals... I'm not sure this is helping so much..
I'm with Kevin when he said 'take a step back'..
Sorry, I don't want to offend with my beer holding armchair comments.. I know I'm not working and looking at your tank every day, you are. But I get this frantic sense from your posts and I KNOW that frantic feeling... It is how I was before crashing my system because I was trying to do this and do that and waiting a day to see improvements instead of waiting the month that it usually takes to see improvements..
I'm glad you got the po4 testing ironed out.. That should help.. Stability, as you know, is key and keeping your hands out of the tank can go a long way towards stability..
I hope I'm not sounding like an a** here..

Hi Matt, no offense taken man, I appreciate all the comments.

From my point of view I'm NOT doing things people suggest. I waited this long to dip corals, I have not yet nuked the tank with interceptor, and I waited on the stags until it was obvious the bases had continued to recede. I think I post more than I actually do. :D Oh, and I didn't clip the tips once growth restarted.

I have not switched to 2 part or considered a calcium reactor, sticking with Kalk and dialing in the Alk levels again. When doing water changes I abandoned the AquaForest Reef salt and went back to what has always worked for me, Red Sea Blue Bucket.

I have changed a lot of water after sending in the Triton test, and I've tested PO4 too much to try and understand what the heck it's doing and why. Other than that most of what I've done is a reaction to something happening with equipment, like the darn skimmer overflowing and becoming erratic.

I actually have a lot of dead corals due to me not doing anything IMO and watching them slowly decline until gone.

You could be right, I'll have to go back and review, but for the most part I generally just stare, curse, and do regular maintenance, perhaps more often than normal.

I can certainly understand why many folks stop posting when things go wrong. Everyone wants to help and the suggestions fly but in the end we have to do what we think is right and hope to hell it works.

I still do not understand how I harmed so many corals of all types just by having an Alk rise of 1KH. Maybe I should have been dosing trace elements since I use Kalk, but I wasn't because I can't test for it.

I dunno, but I still want to hear everyone's opinion, it does help.

Oh, and I still haven't cut the Miami Orchid up yet but the base continues to slowly recede. It's as if the coral can't adapt to the dead base and it keeps spreading.
 
Water change, 15 gallons, and a vac of the left front. Green on sandbed returns quickly but it's not really slimey.

Corals are continuing to improve, I see new growth edges on most acros now and colors from both new frags and a few old frags is improving.

Tests done prior to wc:

KH 7.8
PO4 down to .02 (ELOS Pro). I will increase reef roids just a little, otherwise no changes.
 
Some happier pictures for a change.

Trying to get a picture of the frag rack colors and the Lokani but was photo bombed. This is why my frags don't stay in the same position, the Foxface doesn't show much finesse when it comes to drive by cleanings. :)
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Lokani has put on a show through this entire ordeal. Also note bright blue green of the little Hawkins frag near the base.
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These KBG frags were dirt brown just a week ago, as brown as the little half dead nub on the right hand frag.
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Started out less brown and is coloring nicely now.
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Purple monti cap weed has suddenly started to grow.
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I forgot the clowns had eggs until I put my hand in the tank to remove the MP40 wet side for cleaning. Mercy! I'll clean it once the eggs are gone.
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I expect it will be months before some of the other corals regain color, if they survive, but I have more and more confidence now that whatever happened is over. Crossing my fingers that the stags will recover now that I've cut the dead areas off. I may have to do the same to the Miami Orchid but for now will just wait and watch.
 
Congrats Mark for the good news !!!!!

Always following the thread and keeping my fingers crossed for your tank recovery.

Best Daniel !!
 
Mark,
I see polyps, always a good sign.
Glad to see things are coming back and you are gaining confidence.
Awesome!!!
 
Hey Mark, yeah I was probably off base..
You are fully entitled to your rant! :)
Glad to see continuing positive changes..
You mentioned that you couldn't understand how a 1 dkh rise could cause all these problems but didn't the l problems start way before that, when you did your zoa extermination?
1 dkh rise on its own isn't much but when corals are already stressed, it'll turn them for the worse, perhaps..
Anyways, good to see things looking better!
 
Hey Mark, yeah I was probably off base..
You are fully entitled to your rant! :)
Glad to see continuing positive changes..
You mentioned that you couldn't understand how a 1 dkh rise could cause all these problems but didn't the l problems start way before that, when you did your zoa extermination?
1 dkh rise on its own isn't much but when corals are already stressed, it'll turn them for the worse, perhaps..
Anyways, good to see things looking better!

No, I don't think you were offbase, always good to go over what is being done and not done IMO. :)

Yea, things started downhill after the eradication but had stabilized, well apparently, just before the dramatic decline. It is probably stress related, just one thing too many pushed them over the edge.

Thanks everyone for the crossing of digits, MUCH appreciated. :beer:
 
Hey Mark, since I just ragged on you for screwing around with your tank too much, I was wondering if you'd consider screwing around with your tank a bit more.. ;)
Would you consider trying to dose micro e?
I know you're following Matt's thread and its discussion about manganese and zinc...
 
Hey Mark, since I just ragged on you for screwing around with your tank too much, I was wondering if you'd consider screwing around with your tank a bit more.. ;)
Would you consider trying to dose micro e?
I know you're following Matt's thread and its discussion about manganese and zinc...

:D

Maybe, I'll look into it. I've got a bottle of Seachem Reef Trace which has some of these along with other trace elements.
 
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