Marks...Back to the Future..Reef Aquarium

Mark...

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Hi, I've been hanging around here at RC for a little while and recently joined back in May. I've been waiting to pull the trigger on doing this tank, knowing the time, commitment and money it takes to do it right. Even with the tank in the garage right now I even hesitate, but finally have decided to push forward in a slow calculated manner. Months to a year.

As a middle aged geeky type person I have learned the journey sometimes is as much or more fun as the end result. With that said, I really enjoy learning and dissecting every issue. From equipment to live stock. I also love to wheel and deal in the shopping department! And I also tend to ask too many questions.

My Personal History As a kid I always had fresh water tanks at different stages of growing up. (I still haven't grown up btw, ask my wife and kids).
In the 80's when I finally had my own home the tanks returned. I had a nice 125 gallon salt water setup in the wall and ran it for many years with a fair amount of success. Compared to the technology now, it was the stone age. (Hence my Back to the Future thread title) I used under-gravel filters with air pumps, a hanging Superking filter, heater hanging in the corner, dolomite as a substrate. I bought the tank for $119, built the stand with 2x4's and 3/4 plywood. Used a $10 shop light with 4 foot aquarium bulbs. Used dead coral, lava rock which I still have in the basement. So for a couple of hundred dollars I had at the time a very nice tank. Oh and lots of green algae!

Fast forward to today. I'm in a different home, with Wife, 2 crazy Dachshunds and 3 boys with two being grown up. Have one 2 year old Grandson. And now I'm thinking of doing a nice tank in my home office. I was going to wait a few years to put this together as I got closer to retirement...but with the bug...how can I wait 6-7 more years? I find the new equipment options fascinating and expensive. It like being a mad scientist

Oh and if I can sell my piano, I can get an even bigger tank (as per the wife) and put it in my living room. Peninsula? Anyone want to buy a nice grand piano?

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Today: I'm in the planning stages and buying stuff. I've spent months looking at tank options and then found this gem:

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Its a 7 year old 180 gallon, but never setup. Came with an Ocean Motion 4(which I have since sold) and a new 6 year old pump that has also never been used. If I sell the piano, I'll make the tank a sump or frag tank...lol Here is the pump, I'm selling it. Too powerful for my needs.

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Here is an old acyrlic I bought to become my basement sump:
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Crazy 2 hour ride on Interstate, my son peed his pants(him in picture)...I did too :)
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Have to setup the baffles, but first need to pick out a skimmer and return pump. Both choices are proving difficult...

My tank vision: I want to make it as if it has a rimless look and feel as possible. I want it to be clean and efficient as well as artsy. I will attempt to have as small environmental impact as possible. Both in equipment and reef life. LED lights (reefbreeders) and DC pumps (maybe), if they can do a proper job in a basement sump. I really don't want my electric going to the moon. I hope to have find a stand or have one built.. I also need to make sure I have no water disasters up stairs. Plan on using a Herbie.

I have concerns about my well water and just bought the BRS 75g plus 5 stage ro/di unit. I have some CO2 issues to work out as well as other setup questions. But that can wait. I will need to bubble my RO water before DI to remove the CO2.

I'm pretty good in the fish department, but totally new in the coral arena. So that should be fun learning.

So this is my initial build thread post to get things started, hope it wasn't too much.

Bought so far:
RO/DI
180g tank
100g sump
heaters
filter socks
salt
27lbs of rock
refractometer
magnet cleaner

Waiting to pull trigger on return pump, skimmer and much more...

Have a ton of questions...
Mark...
 
Here is big brother with little brother sumpy in my garage...

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Basement sump area...just in front of beam.
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BRS package: Dog Freddie not included...
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Another delivery:
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old coral...over 20 years old...any use in today's reef tanks?
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Looks like a lot of fun. By the way I think my dentist has the same corals in his tank. I was telling him the other day that he really needs to upgrade and go with all live. He just laughed at me and said he has a nice set up at home. But this works for his office.
 
Looks like a lot of fun. By the way I think my dentist has the same corals in his tank. I was telling him the other day that he really needs to upgrade and go with all live. He just laughed at me and said he has a nice set up at home. But this works for his office.

They are old school...:lmao:, maybe I can just clean them and grind them up into rubble...
 
Asked this on another thread, but no feedback. I'll try here, building a basement sump for the 180g. About 11ft of head with 1+" piping using two 45 degree and splitting to two 3/4 returns at the overflow with 2 90's each to get into tank.. I want an internal pump. 5x flow is 900, but I will have only a one inch Herbie with a one inch emergency, so 600 gph at the tank level seems about right...

I really like some of the DC pumps, but there seems to be reliability issues.

I want to keep the electric bill in check as much as possible, and I want a rock solid pump in the reliability department.

My search brought me to this pump:
Sicce Syncra 12 High Flow Pump, 3200gph

I love some opinions or other options...
 
Gorgeous tank!! I am putting my sump in the basement also. I was going to do an aquarium sump and add baffles, but found a good deal for an oversized used unit. I also have the same corals frm the 80's like you not sure what to do with them.
 
The theme to my build and what do you guys think of this return pump for 11 ft of head?

Sicce Syncra 12 High Flow Pump, 3200gph



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In my quest to keep my energy bill reasonable, I found this skimmer:

Tunze Master DOC Protein Skimmer 9410.000

It's only 15w and will cost just 1.08 a month to operate. I was leaning toward the BM 180ex, but can't ignore the energy consumption.

Anyone familiar with the Tunze skimmer?
 
Asked this on another thread, but no feedback. I'll try here, building a basement sump for the 180g. About 11ft of head with 1+" piping using two 45 degree and splitting to two 3/4 returns at the overflow with 2 90's each to get into tank.. I want an internal pump. 5x flow is 900, but I will have only a one inch Herbie with a one inch emergency, so 600 gph at the tank level seems about right...

I really like some of the DC pumps, but there seems to be reliability issues.

I want to keep the electric bill in check as much as possible, and I want a rock solid pump in the reliability department.

My search brought me to this pump:
Sicce Syncra 12 High Flow Pump, 3200gph

I love some opinions or other options...

I think I read somewhere last night that the DC 10500 had like a 15 foot head limit to it. Now the output of it at the height I don't know for sure. I will have to look and see if I can find a link to what I was reading.
 
I think I read somewhere last night that the DC 10500 had like a 15 foot head limit to it. Now the output of it at the height I don't know for sure. I will have to look and see if I can find a link to what I was reading.

The product info I read said 17.5 ft, but like you said, no idea what the output will be at 11 feet. 5x flow is 900gph, but anything over 500gph would be fine at the tank.

I'm also considering the Sicce Syncra 12 High Flow Pump, 3200gph, but it uses much more energy.

Thanks for the help...
 
In my quest to keep my energy bill reasonable, I found this skimmer:

Tunze Master DOC Protein Skimmer 9410.000

It's only 15w and will cost just 1.08 a month to operate. I was leaning toward the BM 180ex, but can't ignore the energy consumption.

Anyone familiar with the Tunze skimmer?

Just reading the skimmer thread - I have not heard much great about the Tunze skimmers. The AquaMaxx skimmers get great reviews at their price point.
 
Just reading the skimmer thread - I have not heard much great about the Tunze skimmers. The AquaMaxx skimmers get great reviews at their price point.

I've read the Tunze take a couple of weeks to break in, but after that seem pretty good. I've heard great things about the AquaMaxx skimmers also. Its the 15w that really impresses me on the Tunze.
 
Mark... said:
old coral...over 20 years old...any use in today's reef tanks?
They won't stay colourful, pretty and shiny like that once they are in your tank. A natural bio-film will grow over them. Various diatoms, hair and turf algaes will take hold, eventually (if things go well) coraline algaes will cover the lit surfaces, and at all times your fish will be crapping all over them. They will become the same grayish blobs that plainer rocks become in the aquarium.

Bright colourful pieces like these are best left on the shelf to look pretty and collect dust. ;)

Dave.M
 
They won't stay colourful, pretty and shiny like that once they are in your tank. A natural bio-film will grow over them. Various diatoms, hair and turf algaes will take hold, eventually (if things go well) coraline algaes will cover the lit surfaces, and at all times your fish will be crapping all over them. They will become the same grayish blobs that plainer rocks become in the aquarium.

Bright colourful pieces like these are best left on the shelf to look pretty and collect dust. ;)

Dave.M

At least I wont have to clean them...thanks.
 
My low power consumption quest has led me to this skimmer. In my readings, its a little tricky to dial in, but once it gets going, the consensus is very happy. Cost about $338, using only 15w. At my JCP&L rate of .10 a kilowatt hour, we are talking $1.08 a month to operate. Will probably purchase in December.

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My low power consumption quest has led me to this skimmer. In my readings, its a little tricky to dial in, but once it gets going, the consensus is very happy. Cost about $338, using only 15w. At my JCP&L rate of .10 a kilowatt hour, we are talking $1.08 a month to operate. Will probably purchase in December.

Tunze-Master-DOC-Protein-Skimmer-9410.000-99.jpg

Tunze makes a good product, I used a 9011 for a number of trouble free years. You'll probably have to dump the cup daily, since there is no external drain though.
 
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