Matrix (and siporax) questions, to keep from derailing Sahin's thread.....
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biggles
Premium Member
If my tank crashes I'm blaming Sahin, LOL
Received 4L of matrix stones today so you better have this bacteria hording magic beans thing right Sahin........ :hammer:
DiscusHeckel
Acropora Gardener
I'll give that a go, thanks.
Edit: £16.99 for 1L 15mm Siporax, £11.95 shipping to Canada, £3.29 import fees. That sounds pretty reasonable to me.
None ship to Canada.
That is too expensive. You can get it £9.99 for 1 L elsewhere. Whether or not you can have it shipped to USA/Canada is another matter.
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Myka
Reefing since '93
Oh, I see what you mean now. Still, it's the cheapest thing I've bought for my tank in recent memory. Heck, the total cost is less than a bag of sand. :lol2:
Myka
Reefing since '93
You guys say Siporax works better if you seed, how are you guys doing that? Do you just mean running them on a different system or in a live rock tub or dosing bacteria into the input of the Siporax filter or...? Can't you just put them online and they will start to work after some weeks?
There should be nothing on them to cure, just give them a good rinse and add them to your system
It takes a few months for a good bacteria culture to start growing on the media, you can speed up the process by a month or two by adding live bacteria to your tank. I think Sahin used prodibio and the zeovit bacteria cultures to get his tank going. The brightwell stuff would work as well from what i've read.
Myka
Reefing since '93
Yeah I don't really see any reason to seed it. I use Prodibio in my tank already anyway.
I moved from Virginia to Oklahoma in early 2014. I had to sell my reef tank rather than risk killing everything. Neighbor had her own tank maint business and was rather good at reef keeping. So I sold it to her for a good deal.
I never ran a sump on that tank for 12 years. I always ran a canister with half matrix rocks, half eheim substrat pro- NEVER had phosphates or Nitrates. Ever.
The LFS owners around town couldnt believe it. I told them I would put $50 store credit on the table if he could bring any test kit to show my tank has phosphates- he could even come in person.
I won that bet.
It DOES produce quite a bit of bubbles as it does its conversions- just a heads up.
I just started up a 70gal reef with a sump (this time) and am working on implementing more of the matrix rocks around the water coming into the sump. No canister....yet.
I never ran a sump on that tank for 12 years. I always ran a canister with half matrix rocks, half eheim substrat pro- NEVER had phosphates or Nitrates. Ever.
The LFS owners around town couldnt believe it. I told them I would put $50 store credit on the table if he could bring any test kit to show my tank has phosphates- he could even come in person.
I won that bet.
It DOES produce quite a bit of bubbles as it does its conversions- just a heads up.
I just started up a 70gal reef with a sump (this time) and am working on implementing more of the matrix rocks around the water coming into the sump. No canister....yet.
sahin
Ultimate Reefer
If they work, you are getting me a frag of that Firetruck acro...
If they dont work. At least you have loads of pod mansions in the sump. I'm sure all the pods will appreciate it. :beer:
I wouldn't worry about it Sahin, Andrew doesn't even update his tank thread anymore. I bet he's sold off all his corals, donated the money to his local orphanage and is living a life of subsistence farming in the outback with the 'roos and Crocodile Dundee.
biom
Member
I prefer liquid carbon dosing over siporax/matrix media because i believe that in our tanks (except Denadai's tank with plastic rocks) there are plenty of space for bacteria to flourish, but the limiting factor is carbon. I've tried siporax (pond version) and zeroed nitrates for couple of months, and then I noticed something like "competition" for bacteria between live rocks and siporax, it seems that in low carbon environment bacteria prefer siporax over live rocks and heterotroph bacteria were out-competed from cyanobacteria which covered most of live rock surface.
ifarmer
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ifarmer
New member
does anyone know how much of the matrix rocks to use on the 75g tank?
how often to change out the rocks?
we i use the mechanical filter to house the rocks? or does it require the use of the reactor.
i currently dosing a few drops of zeostart on every time (after) I do the water change (twice a week on water change).
thanking in advance.
how often to change out the rocks?
we i use the mechanical filter to house the rocks? or does it require the use of the reactor.
i currently dosing a few drops of zeostart on every time (after) I do the water change (twice a week on water change).
thanking in advance.
nemodan
New member
Andrew..... The fuge with Macros and Matrix addition recovered my tank from the nutrient crash. I do not have any other method of exporting nutrients.....just biology. And worked .
Cheers
Daniel
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