Matrix (and siporax) questions, to keep from derailing Sahin's thread.....

[cham]

Well crud, in my haste, I accidentally ordered 3L Siporax "mini" (the little pellets) instead of more regular siporax. I have 3L of siporax rings now but wanted 3L more I'm not using it for Nitrate control, just because my tank doesn't have a ton of live rock, what LR I have is non porous and I have BB so limited space for bacteria.

Do I need to return the "mini" for regular siporax?

 

[Ancelot]

"Mini" works just as fine.


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[slavetonet]

Siporax mini is great if you lack space.
I have 10 litres in my tank.

 

[kevlow]

My nitrates were down to an even 5.
I continued to feed the fish very heavy though I reduced the amount of Reef Roids I fed this week.
Two weeks of stirring the matrix in the media basket by hand daily has made a noticeable difference in the amount of detritus. The water now remains clear after mixing; with basically little to no feeding response from the corals.

I know that feeding a reduced amount of ReefRoids helped lower nitrates but I think the mixing of the matrix contributed as well.

 

[naecO.rM]

Yes I think it's a direct result of running Siporax, matrix and live rock. I've never used GFO or Carbon and no filter socks. Just a skimmer and media for bacteria. I do dose a little Tropic Marin NP Bacto-Balance to fine tune nutrients to where I like them.

Hi,
how the Siporax is protected from a detritus in your sump?

 

[gregkn73]

Hi,

Can someone running matrix or siporax in a reactor, confirm by measuring NO3 or Kh at rector's outlet, that denitrification does occur ?

 

[glaukos]

Hi, did anybody using siporax or matrix in a reactor or canister filter, measure NO3 at the output of the reactor? If yes, what was the difference with NO3 at the DT?

Hi,

Can someone running matrix or siporax in a reactor, confirm by measuring NO3 or Kh at rector's outlet, that denitrification does occur ?

You've asked the same question before(03/24/2016) and got no answer.Maybe there's a good reason for that.

The best thing would be to make YOUR own experiment and share YOUR tank info too,so we can have solid conclusions/results.

 

[gregkn73]

You've asked the same question before(03/24/2016) and got no answer.Maybe there's a good reason for that.


The best thing would be to make YOUR own experiment and share YOUR tank info too,so we can have solid conclusions/results.

Do you think that nearly 4 month's, is not enough time for some more people to comment?

I think that it is obvious that the reason I am asking is that I can not see any difference in NO3 or Kh reading's at my reactor outlet , comparing them to my DT reading's.

But you are right. I should give some more info. 650lt net volume system, reactor with 7lt seachem denitrator since mid of January , flow the first 3 months was ~ 450 lt/h, the next 3 months reduced to ~300lt/h and the last month is less than 150lt/h, still with no measurable results! The water supplied to thr reactor is filtered through a sponge.NO3 was 0 when I filled the reactor and now are 5-8, but I increased the number of fish from 15 to 35, mainly small ones, and also started feeding dailly live phytoplankton and rotifers, so I really wonder if anyone has measurable proof that denitrification does occur.

 

[glaukos]

4 months are enough time,for some people,to see they are ignored.

The reason you were asking wasn't obvious,it would have been if you had shared your exp in the first place and then asked the others.

And i'm sure you have heard before,the saying "pics or it never happened".
In order to avoid "i've killed a dragon" tales...

You should open a thread and share pics of your tank,sump,equipment etc so it will be easier(for the ones who are interested) to help you or answer your ?'s.
To inform if it's an sps tank,mixed,skimmer or not,ats,low or high demanding animals etc

That's all:thumbsup:

 

[JoshuaG]

Here is how I'm running mine, about 80GPH flow and this is 2.5L for about 65G of water.

 

[gregkn73]

4 months are enough time,for some people,to see they are ignored.

QUOTE]

Thank you so much, you are one of the few, that do not ignore me. have you evidence that denitrification occur, at your siporax set up?

 

[glaukos]

Me???No,no,no you got something wrong there.I'm with the group of people that ignored the posts.
No need to thank me.Plus it would be wise to stop being sarcastic because that's the exact behaviour that can get you into trouble on this board too.(being banned from two out of three local forums,should have given you some knowledge on that matter).

I won't play the troll game,answering questions with questions,or requests with requests etc.
Still no pics of your setup,tank,sps,flubber,fish load etc so you can make your points solid in any direction,successful or not.

And once again...
"
And i'm sure you have heard before,the saying "pics or it never happened".
In order to avoid "i've killed a dragon" tales...

You should open a thread and share pics of your tank,sump,equipment etc so it will be easier(for the ones who are interested) to help you or answer your ?'s.
To inform if it's an sps tank,mixed,skimmer or not,ats,low or high demanding animals etc "

That's all:thumbsup:

 

[gregkn73]

Me???No,no,no you got something wrong there.I'm with the group of people that ignored the posts.
:

Sure you do Mike. Your last posts in this thread, prove that.



So....i am still very interesting to learn, from someone having a success reducing NO3 with running siporax or Matrix in a reactor, if he or she can measure decreased values of NO3 or increased values of Kh at reactor's outlet, comparing them with the values of DT. Thanks in advance.

 

[glaukos]

:thumbsup:

 

[fessoclown]

EDIT:
I haven't had coffee yet....

 

[alazo1]

I just got a 2liter container of Matrix (original not pond).

I have a brs single reactor that I want to put some of it on.

According to BRS i need to put it in the inner sleeve so that the water flows through the media properly. This would limit the amount that will fit in the reactor. Is this how everyone running the media on the reactor is doing it?

http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/brs-gfo-carbon-reactor-deluxe1.html

thanks,
Albert

 

[nemodan]

I just got a 2liter container of Matrix (original not pond).

I have a brs single reactor that I want to put some of it on.

According to BRS i need to put it in the inner sleeve so that the water flows through the media properly. This would limit the amount that will fit in the reactor. Is this how everyone running the media on the reactor is doing it?

http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/brs-gfo-carbon-reactor-deluxe1.html

thanks,
Albert

I am not using BRS media Reactor type due to that reason.

Daniel

 

[scuzy]

I used a modified ozone reactor for mine. Avast marine mutiny 3. That fit like 5l


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[gus6464]

I am building a matrix reactor out of 4in PVC. Which way would be the best configuration for it? I was just going to do carbon/gfo style where the water comes down a center tube to the bottom and flows upward through media and outside the top.

The reactor is going to be plumbed with manifold on my return.

 

[nemodan]

I am building a matrix reactor out of 4in PVC. Which way would be the best configuration for it? I was just going to do carbon/gfo style where the water comes down a center tube to the bottom and flows upward through media and outside the top.

The reactor is going to be plumbed with manifold on my return.

That configuration is OK. Instead of GFO you have Matrix or Siporax.

I also had one I built where the IN was in the bottom and OUT on the top. No central tubing. I will look for pictures later.

Daniel

Here is the building:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24039072&postcount=49

The container walls wasn't too strong and in one of the cleanings I cracked it. But the idea is there. You can use better materials.


TODAY... I have 5 media reactors. What you see in the picture and two more on the back of the refugium.