Maybe I'm not getting the big picture...

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6860853#post6860853 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bigbenji
Would nassarius snails help? I've seen them burrow into crushed coral.
I think Spot would just eat them :eek1:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6860974#post6860974 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dubbin1
Well I would like to think that I have a successful reef and I vacuum my sand when I feel it needs it.

I tried that and it shocked the **** out of me, and I also had to explain to my wife why the Hoover was in the reef.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6861031#post6861031 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by skippysmind
I tried that and it shocked the **** out of me, and I also had to explain to my wife why the Hoover was in the reef.

Jeff you're FIRED :P
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6860945#post6860945 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by KingDiamond
I never vacumm the sand or crushed coral in a reef system! It pulls out all the macroinvertebrates that you want in the substrate. Anyone I know with a sucessful reef system never has put a gravel vacumm anywhere near thier tank.

Brad
I have Fish only Live Rock :rolleyes:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6860999#post6860999 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bigbenji
Brad, you should put your credentials in your signature. I only know because I've read the TRAC forum too. Someone with your knowledge and experience can certainly teach us all.
I would not want people to think if they didn't listen to me that they were wrong. One thing I have learned about reefs is what works for one person doesn't neccessarily work for others. But on the other hand I do know that there are things that always work!

Brad
 
I'm guessing you've spent a just few years professionally studying these matters. I'll take any advice you have to offer.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6860945#post6860945 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by KingDiamond
I never vacumm the sand or crushed coral in a reef system! It pulls out all the macroinvertebrates that you want in the substrate. Anyone I know with a sucessful reef system never has put a gravel vacumm anywhere near thier tank.

Brad

But Brad you specifically excluded what I know works with your absolute surety my reef can't be sucessful if I vacuum.... not sure I follow the line of thinking:confused:
 
Hey Brad I forgot to mention

<img src="/images/welcome.gif" width="500" height="62"><br><b><i><big><big>To NORA</b></i></big></big>
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6861112#post6861112 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hllywd
But Brad you specifically excluded what I know works with your absolute surety my reef can't be sucessful if I vacuum.... not sure I follow the line of thinking:confused:
Actually, I don't know you so the fact that your reef is successful and you vacumm your reef proves my point. What works in one tank may not work in another.

Brad:)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6861062#post6861062 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by KingDiamond
One thing I have learned about reefs is what works for one person doesn't neccessarily work for others
Brad

He covered his butt.:D
you guys are in a fightin' mood tonight aren't ya

back on topic:

If you've got a FOWLR I think you might need to vacuum the sand bed once in a while. I'd stir up a small portion every once in a while anyway.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6861173#post6861173 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bigbenji
He covered his butt.:D

you guys are in a fightin' mood tonight aren't ya

There is just too many ways to keep any kind of fish tank, let alone reef tanks. We wouldn't have the technology we have today if no one ever tried anything more then once.

Brad
 
Its not a reef. Its a FOWLR.
Sorry, I forgot that its crushed coral. I also forgot that you've got some snail eaters in there. I would stir it up a small portion once in a while just because nothing else will. Not much or you'll cause a dust-storm.
 
hey if this was sand, I am sure that inverts and what not could help keep it churned and clean, but CC is too big for most microinverts to move and clean efficiently, I have tons of micro life in my substrate which I see non-stop, but they don't keep the CC moving so with the excess nutrients in the CC I get weird algea's and cyano type outbreak's in small portions of the surface that can only be ended by vacumming and turning over the clean CC underneath. also the tank looks WAY better after one of these cleanings and the water clarity goes way up.

it's just something I do, and given that much of the CC is under or too close to or between the rock work and the bottom of the tank I can only vaccumm the visible portions, so large parts still go undisturbed.
 
As you can see OneThunder, the 'big picture' resembles a 'where's waldo' poster. Come to think of it, I never could find him.
 
Onethunder, as you can see it's a matter of what works, when somebody jumps in and says you "HAVE" to do something this way or that or you'll fail, check out the claim. As you can see here a claim (all my buddies and their buddies and their buddies..) was made with no facts to back it up and and quite a few claims to the contrary. I learned long ago when something "absolutely always is the case" it usually isn't. You will need to ask for evidence and then make your own decision. Once you do that, then you can answer this question for the next noob... or at least add your 2 cents...:D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6863479#post6863479 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hllywd
Onethunder, as you can see it's a matter of what works, when somebody jumps in and says you "HAVE" to do something this way or that or you'll fail, check out the claim. As you can see here a claim (all my buddies and their buddies and their buddies..) was made with no facts to back it up and and quite a few claims to the contrary. I learned long ago when something "absolutely always is the case" it usually isn't. You will need to ask for evidence and then make your own decision. Once you do that, then you can answer this question for the next noob... or at least add your 2 cents...:D
Go to the Toledo Zoo and look at the 1200 gallon reef exhibit, never been siphoned. The fact that the origional tank in question is not a true reef, different story. Siphon fish only tanks all the time. By the way never once did I say "have" or did I say not doing it one way would fail. I stated that I never do something and nobody I know does a particular thing, that is in no way an inditement of how you do things. I am sure your tank looks great! I never said it didn't. This is a perfect example why I don't often give adivce on boards, it is easy to take something someone types the wrong way. Sorry if me saying what works for me offended anyone.

Brad
 
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