Who sells this stuff locally? I want to buy some tomorrow.
ME Coral Dip
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I'm getting ready to start moving corals from my 12g cube to my 25g cube, some will stay in the 12g until the 125 is cycled. I want to nuke every coral that comes out of that 12g just in case. Only problem I see are these little feather dusters EVERYWHERE!!! They're growing in my gsp's, on my acans, everywhere. I dipped in Revive, and they started jumping off a bit... wanna try ME corals dip to see if it'll knock em off better. Worth the money just to try it.
Mark has as a source that allows him to sell his coral dip cheaper than if you went to home depot and brought the Bayer product
AquamanE
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If i remember my conversation with ME he has increased the dosage of the active ingredient Imidacropid, and eliminated the other ingrediants. .
msderganc
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As a percentage, it's about 1/3 as strong (it's listed on the website). I'm not sure about the other ingredients, but I doubt it's worth paying four times as much.
mrx66699
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It is a pharmaceutical grade and not a lab grade. There is a difference.
msderganc
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For an insecticide, what exactly does that mean? I can't find any specific difference for that chemical. What impurities are present in lab that aren't in the pharmaceutical grade?
That's my point exactly. I'm not doubting the product necessarily, but I'm skeptical. It seems like he's just diluting the same product and inflating the price with no real benefit.
gemini aquarius(t)
Always Learning
From what I have understood in my discussions with mark, there is an ingredient that is harmful in the bayer, that he was able to eliminate in his product. I don't know what the ingredient is, or how harmful it really is, but I can say I just dipped my hammer and I have no doubt it works. And works very well at that. The hammer hardly slimed, and about 40 planaria jumped off and seized until death.
dadummy
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check out the SDS for Imidacloprid, either way even if the harmful ingredient is removed, the remaining ingredient is not good. It can be absorbed through the skin so proper PPE should be used when using the chemical.
The one good thing I found out about it is:
It is NOT known to cause cancer in the state of California
how flippin weird is that
The one good thing I found out about it is:
It is NOT known to cause cancer in the state of California
how flippin weird is that
The reef store on Wiles Road and way out west carries ME corals products in stock... I spoke with Lance at Elite reefs in pompano and he may start carrying the line soon. He has the bug off in the store for his use and we used it to dip a coral, really seemed to work. I've used it on corals, never found anything really bad jumping off, but it pretty much killed a couple of micro stars, asterinas, and stomatella snails... so it does work. Apparently Bayer has something bad in it that can affect fish so you really need to dip it in fresh saltwater at least twice to make sure you get the bayer out of the rock. ME gets rid of that ingredient that causes problems in the fish. Not an expert, just what I've read.
DRThompson
2018 FMAS President
The Bayer Complete product contains: 0.36% β-cyfluthrin; 0.72% Imidacloprid
the ME Bugoff product only contains the Imidacloprid.
cyfluthrin is highly toxic to fish.
For more info:
Imidacloprid
http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/imidagen.html
Cyfluthrin:
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/carbaryl-dicrotophos/cyfluthrin-ext.html
the ME Bugoff product only contains the Imidacloprid.
cyfluthrin is highly toxic to fish.
For more info:
Imidacloprid
http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/imidagen.html
Cyfluthrin:
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/carbaryl-dicrotophos/cyfluthrin-ext.html
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AquamanE
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Good info Dr. T.
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