miracle mud?

shecky79

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Hey guys I am planning to start my tank this weekend and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with miracmud in their sump. Thanks for the help mike
 
Really I am just tarting out and the guy who i bought the tank from used said he used mm in the sump. So i just wanted to get some more info on the stuff. I am planning on going with a fowlr tank then move up to softies. I am really puzzeled on what to put in my sump without going with bio balls. I hear activated carbon is good but the space where it would be placed would look to need at least five mesh bags. Is that a normal amount to put in? and is that all I need in the sump as far as biological or are there other choices?
 
Save your money. MM is not needed in your situation and would actually cause you problems. Look into a skimmer to place in your sump. Any chemical absorption media like activated carbon, should have a recommended amount to use printed on the bottle.
 
Thanks for the help elegance. I already have a skimmer in the sump I just wasn't sure if if there was anything else I would need. Do you have any suggestions?
 
As far as carbon you only use 1 mesh bag, but I would recommend looking into a reactor. Best 25 bucks I have spent.
 
Can you describe the system in a little more detail? Size, other equipment running, etc.? Then we'll know where you stand and have a better idea of what to suggest.
 
Miracle Mud can work well, but I think it's overpriced for what it is. Some very fine sand should work as well, IMO.
 
Why no MM with stonies? I have been doing it for a year with good growth. Just curious what I'm missing

MM is good for growing mangroves, algae, and sea grasses. If these are the types of life forms trying to be kept, then MM would be great. 80% of MM is composed of the rot and filth that accumulates at the bottom of the ocean. This makes it great fertilizer for these types of systems. This is the opposite of the environment that stony corals prosper in. Stony corals thrive in very nutrient poor water.
 
Can you describe the system in a little more detail? Size, other equipment running, etc.? Then we'll know where you stand and have a better idea of what to suggest.
This is my setup:
Tank - 48 length 28 height 20 width RR seamless Bowfront
sump is 36 length 15 width 15 height
So far I have 2 tunze 6100's, a 7095 controller,reefkeeper2, 2 250w MH, 2 54w t-5, a mag18 for the return, a euro reef g-3 skimmer.
 
Thanks for the help elegance. I already have a skimmer in the sump I just wasn't sure if if there was anything else I would need. Do you have any suggestions?

Do you have a filter sock? You could get several 100 micron filter socks and change them out every day or every other day, then wash them on the weekend. This helps tremendously to keep the system clean.
 
no I do not but I have filter media pads in the first chamber. is this the smae?

It depends. If it's a find mesh, close to 100 micron, and all the water is forced through it, (no water can go around the filter pad), and it's easy to change out, then it would serve the same purpose.
 
A carbon reactor - basically just a container that can hold carbon, which you use a pump to force water through. When set up correctly, it can lead to better utilization of the carbon vs. just putting a bag of it in the sump.
 
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