Mixing Tangs in a tank

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I have a vlamingii in my 210, but I plan on upgrading in the "near as possible" future. :lol: Whats dumb is that people get so upset about this topic. for every person on here asking opinions there are 100 throwing a yellow tang into an nanocube with a porc puffer, a moorish idol and a clown fish named Nemo. For what its worth my tank only has about 120 pounds of rock in it and the only place it touches the glass is on the bottom. having a 220 with little rock is better for something like a Naso than having a 350 with 400 pounds of rock and huge SPS colonies.
 
THIS POST IS NOT AIMED AT THE O.P.; JUST MY OVER-ALL IMPRESSION WITH THE DIRECTION SOME POSTERS SEEM TO BE TAKING THE THREAD.
Re: Tangs at the LFS. These fish are there short-term. The goal of most hobbyists is to see their efforts pay off with fish that thrive for years. There is a big difference between a fish that is alive and one that is thriving. Many fish. Hippo Tangs are a good example, are extremely hardy. I'll bet I could keep one "alive" for a year in a 10 gallon tank; the only thing that would prove was that I needed a new hobby. IMO, the whole idea of this hobby is to help each other help their fish thrive (and look like it) in captivity. If that isn't the intent of any contributor; you're sure wasting the time of a lot of folks who take this hobby, and thriving fish, seriously.
 
a 220g tank can house a 3" blonde naso for several years with no problem. most people dont even keep their tanks up long enough for the fish to out grow it.

that's the major problem with this hobby. most people simply don't treat fish as living things that deserve proper care and attentions, unlike pets that can be "petted." they see pretty fish and immediately want a tank full of them without knowing the requirements. in my opinion, fish are the most difficult pets to keep as they require knowledge in so many different areas of disciplines. most people just don't have the persistence and diligence to really learn. they buy these fish, have them die due to improper care, and get frustrated and quit the hobby.

i hate hearing someone walking into a LFS and buying an emperor angel for his 90 gallon tank, and worst of all, the LFS doesn't say a thing about it...
 
I agree, go with the the fish you like the most just don't over do it. Having a 3" Naso isn't going to be a problem IMO for some time.

I was told never to put a hippo and a clown tang in the same tank but they are thriving and not just in a box.

Just wait until someone talks about the "a saint bernard dog will live in a closet, but will it thrive?".

If you get your naso, with as much concern as you are showing now, you will know when it's time to either upgrade or donate/trade/sell your fish off to a bigger tank.
 
a 220g tank can house a 3" blonde naso for several years with no problem. most people dont even keep their tanks up long enough for the fish to out grow it.

Why would you buy a fish when you are perfectly aware it won't be suited long term to your tank? That's pretty irresponsible if you ask me.

OP, it's good you're taking the time to ask about sizes. I don't believe trying to get several opinions from multiple posters means you're trying to get the "right" answer. To me it simply means you want an answer made more definitive through numbers of replies.

Try not to take some of the posts personally as a lot of these experienced guys deal with lots of careless posts regarding fish and tank size made by owners who really don't care about the well-being of their fish. Hence their quickness to become irritated.

Also, the fact that you're willing to forgo the naso because it's responsible shows that you're in the right mind set.
 
Phastroh,
A blonde may be fine in your 220 for several years, maybe more. When he starts to get too big is when the problems start. You either have to get a bigger tank for him, or find someone with a big enough tank to take him. Ever try to get rid of a 12" long fish? trust me, it ain't easy. ;) You basically give it away IF you can find a home for him.

You can try three yellows tangs in the tank as an alternative. They should do fine with the the blue hippo and maybe one other smaller tang. If you go yellows, do them in an odd number. ;)

Have you looked at the purple tang? They also make nice tankmates.
 
The Naso tangs grow to be a spectacular reef fish; they are hardy, eat well in captivity, doesn’t bother sessile invertebrates, and rarely quarrels with other reef fish. Sounds like the perfect addition to your reef aquarium, right? The problem is that it grows to an adult length of almost two feet!

Some aquarists such as ones on this thread say they plan to keep a particular fish until it outgrows their home aquarium and then donate it to a public aquarium, another aquarist or their LFS. While this sounds reasonable, it shouldn’t be assumed that the local public aquarium, LFS, or fellow hobbyist will accept your donation. Most public aquariums are inundated with donations of fish and simply don’t have the room or need for many fish. And of course, the health of your environment, no matter how good, is an unknown to public aquaria. LFS will only take fish they can sell. Large fish require large tanks and few folks really have LARGE tanks; some do most do not.

I’ve often seen the statement, “I’ll get a bigger aquarium when it grows.” While this is honorable, it rarely materializes. My estimate of upgrades that NEVER happen is about 90%. The fish frequently suffers and dies long before a new and appropriate habitat is obtained.

Then there is the attitude that you’re not going to keep the fish alive long enough for it to outgrow your aquarium anyway. While this is rarely said aloud, we all know it’s out there and came up implicitly in this thread. Aquarists with this mentality should find another hobby.

The other side of the argument is illustrated by these statements: “So what if we purchase a fish that will outgrow its cage.” “After all, we’re not obliged to recreate a natural habitat for a fish to live out its natural lifespan.” “It’s already been taken from its “home” and placed in a glass box, so what difference does it make how long it lives?” “Let’s not kid ourselves; we’re not coming close to creating a natural reef in our homes anyway.” “Assuming it’s not an endangered species, there’s no harm done.” “After all, we capture many species of fish to eat and no one complains about that.” There is some validity to these arguments. After all, what is the point of our home aquariums? Guilty pleasures, a home decoration, an educational instrument. In any case, the goal is rarely to see how close we can come to keeping a fish alive for its natural lifespan.

Let’s return to Naso tangs. The Naso tangs are part of the large family of tangs and surgeonfish, Acanthuridae. It belongs to the sub- family, Nasinae, which contains the single genus, Naso. There are 20 species of Naso tang. Naso tangs are distinguished by the two fixed spines on the caudal penduncle. In other tangs and surgeonfish, the spines retract into a sheath. Some Naso tangs develop nasal protrusions as they mature. These can be small humps or single large horns, hence the name “unicornfish.”

All the Naso tangs get very large by aquarium standards. Adult sizes range from 12 inches up to 36 inches ( Naso annulatus)! Most of the Naso tangs are somewhat understated in coloration, with the exceptions of perhaps N. lituratus and N. elegans. Even the Vlamingi tang is a bit of an ugly duckling. The magnificent coloration doesn’t manifest itself until the fish reaches 8-10 inches in length.

Naso tangs are primarily mid-water planktivores. They cruise reef walls in large numbers and feed on passing zooplankton in the tidal currents. They will also graze the substrate for algae, a trait that is more pronounced in some species than others (e.g., N. lituratusand N. elegans ).

Naso tangs are a widespread species and occur throughout the Indo-Pacific Ocean, but are not present in the Atlantic Ocean. Because of their size and swimming habits we recommend a 10 foot tank minimum. Tank length is most important not gallons.
 
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Did you ever get mating behavior? Nice tank by the way.

Thanks. They were almost always together in the tank and even slept together. But I never saw any mating behavior. I beleive that was due to the tank size, seems they mate while swimming up and down in the water colum. Even though my tank is 3' tall, it still wasn't tall enough for a 12" fish to mate.
 
i would go with the tangs u want, if you get them at a nice 3" size they will be fine for a few years. The truth is none of the saltwater fish should be kept in home aquariums cause they are not the size of the ocean yet we still do it.

Deplorable advice (if such a comment can be labeled "advice").
 
i was making a statement in regards to the over exaggerators on this forum. im not the one saying that a 220g tank is to small for a naso tang.
 
Ok so I just got back from the lFS.

I got 3 Blonde Nasos, 2 Sohals, 2 Powder Blues, 5 Yellows, 3 Purples, 3 Lieutenants and a Bristle Tooth.

They are all in the 220Gal tank right now but they are all fighting constantly.

Just kidding hahaha. Sorry I just couldn't help it.

I still have not decided though.

I am actually here to ask a good place beside Live Aquaria to get my fish.

Anyone buy elsewhere like reefs2go.com or petsolutions.com

Any places you know 100% with experience are good and QT their fish at all.
 
And with that post, I am going to bow out of this thread -- isn't worth my time -- you keep claiming that you aren't being a smart alec, and yet...
 
And with that post, I am going to bow out of this thread -- isn't worth my time -- you keep claiming that you aren't being a smart alec, and yet...

Seriously man you need to chill to hell out.

Are you that stiff that you can't even take a joke.

Smart Alec.... are you frigin kidding me with that analysis of my post or any post I made? I know I have been claiming over and over I am not a smart alec hahaha how silly.

If any normal person were to see how people react to this thread they would think you are all loons.

Whether it is worth your time is of no consequence to me so goodbye. I don't need people who can't have fun when they post.

Sorry Captain Tang I will shape up on the double LMAO.

Seriously you need to lighten up or go hit the bong. It was a joke J.O.K.E.

I am sorry if it hurts anyones feelings.
 
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