I'm sry but I have no idea what you are trying to say here or what relation it has to my post that you linked.
Are you claiming that they are as noisy as the MP40 or that the name sounds alike?
MP40 vs 6105 vs WP40
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I'm sry but I have no idea what you are trying to say here or what relation it has to my post that you linked.
Are you claiming that they are as noisy as the MP40 or that the name sounds alike?
SimonSKL
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WP means Water Pump. That can't be patented, I think.
alton
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China doesn't honor patent rights nor do they UL test there products. I guess most cannot see that a Chinese company copied a German company pump and named it after an American pump? Whats next a new car that looks just like a Corvette but called Fastang. Nothing wrong with that is there? Look there is plenty of chinese made stuff out there, some not half bad but I think Jebao/Jebo went to far in coping a product of another company and then gave it the same name as another.
China does honor patents. They do not however honor US patents but neither does any other country on the planet. Just like the US does not honor Chinese patents. If you want a country to honor a patent you have to take it out in that country. Getting a world patent on something is very expensive and time consuming so I doubt it will be done for something as trivial as an aquarium pump.
UL testing is an American standard if I remember right. Other countries will have their own. If someone wants to sell a Chinese item in the US it is their responsibility to have it UL tested, not the producers. You can not expect a factory to test for every safety standard on the planet. The US one isn't hard to reach btw and would be considered a fire hazard in the EU. The WP40 is apparently selling in England so one would assume it has passes EU regulations and is therefore of higher standards than having passed UL tests.
SimonSKL
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If you have seen the power supply of the Jebao WP40, you would not have made such a statement regarding UL test because it would be false.
Here is a picture of the Jebao WP40 Power Supply
SimonSKL
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Your statement was China doesn't UL test their products. Look at the bottom of the power supply label. It says Made in China. I rest my case as there is no need for further argument on this point.:deadhorse1:
alton
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Looking at the Jabeo pump website the power supplies they use is UL listed but not there products or at least I did not see that posted and there warranty is 180 days. But you are still not going to change how I feel about a company that makes a pump that looks exactly like another
Hope you don't drive an American car then. They have been looking suspiciously like Japanese cars for 10+ years now.
You mean like these original Chinese cars?
http://www.topgear.com.ph/features/feature-articles/10-most-audacious-chinese-made-knockoffs
http://www.topgear.com.ph/features/feature-articles/10-most-audacious-chinese-made-knockoffs
TheGodParticle
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The thing I like most about that article is in the first paragraph. About how if it has buyers it can be faked. This is obviously a glaring example.
I am guessing that you missed that many of those cars are actually licensed by the original manufacturer. A new name in a new country does not always mean knockoff. It can be that the name in inappropriate or hard to pronounce in a new language. It can also mean that the original manufacturer takes a fat licensing check for a product he knows is garbage and will not allow them the use of the original name to protect its reputation.
Perhaps next time you should be more skeptic about articles on knockoffs you get from a magazine called Topgear that is in no way affiliated with Topgear.....
The article itself may not be of any importance but that you got it from a magazine with a more than obvious knockoff name without questioning it is. This thread is going from bad to worse very fast with many people having some narrow-minded opinions a very large and complex country. There are plenty of bad things to say about China as it is today but this still does not mean that we can throw generic blanket statements around.
To answer your question: Any car produced by Brilliance Automotive would be legit and they produce a lot, exactly which I do not know. The Mini obviously isn't a copy, besides a box like shape and the color of the roof they have little in common, maybe inspired by would apply but this is not uncommon anywhere in the world. The only car I know for sure to be a knockoff out of those 10 is the Chery QQ since there is a documented lawsuit which I believe GM won....in China.
I am in no way defending people who are stealing other peoples ideas. The moment you make significant changes to something it isn't other peoples ideas anymore. When it comes to the WP40 I am not seeing knockoff besides possibly the incredibly cheesy name. It looks a little bit like a Tunze but does not operate like one. This is a significant change.
There are very few totally original products in the world so the word knockoff is pretty easy to use. China does not exactly have the world monopoly on these sort of things. The biggest knockoff in history is American (Microsoft) and so is the biggest patent fraud (Bell). From my home (Sweden) you have IKEA and H&M which I am sorry to say is garbage and often dangerously close to plagiarism. China produces more goods than the US and EU combined so of course there is junk made there. Without a doubt there is proportionally more junk made in China than in the US or EU but that does not mean that everything they make is a knockoff or garbage. They also produce a lot of things intended for a third world market that finds itself in our homes via Ebay etc with astronomical markups.
How about some reviews on the WP40 based on the actual performance of the item.
To answer your question: Any car produced by Brilliance Automotive would be legit and they produce a lot, exactly which I do not know. The Mini obviously isn't a copy, besides a box like shape and the color of the roof they have little in common, maybe inspired by would apply but this is not uncommon anywhere in the world. The only car I know for sure to be a knockoff out of those 10 is the Chery QQ since there is a documented lawsuit which I believe GM won....in China.
I am in no way defending people who are stealing other peoples ideas. The moment you make significant changes to something it isn't other peoples ideas anymore. When it comes to the WP40 I am not seeing knockoff besides possibly the incredibly cheesy name. It looks a little bit like a Tunze but does not operate like one. This is a significant change.
There are very few totally original products in the world so the word knockoff is pretty easy to use. China does not exactly have the world monopoly on these sort of things. The biggest knockoff in history is American (Microsoft) and so is the biggest patent fraud (Bell). From my home (Sweden) you have IKEA and H&M which I am sorry to say is garbage and often dangerously close to plagiarism. China produces more goods than the US and EU combined so of course there is junk made there. Without a doubt there is proportionally more junk made in China than in the US or EU but that does not mean that everything they make is a knockoff or garbage. They also produce a lot of things intended for a third world market that finds itself in our homes via Ebay etc with astronomical markups.
How about some reviews on the WP40 based on the actual performance of the item.
karsseboom
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Apparently you don't know much about cars then. I looked over all those models and know them pretty well and I would say they are close to direct copy's as I have ever seen.
China did not invent the controllable water pump. They made a copy or very close resembling sibling of something that has been out for a while now. That is the problem people have with it. Now if you decide it's best to risk a electric shock and buy the cheaper alternative that it totally fine. I have thought about buying one of these but not sure it would be worth it if it doesn't last.
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