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Well its more than the recommendation. I would assume without it being the reciruclating model that much flow would leave very little contact time in the actual skimmer itself.

Just a thought.
Brandon
 
Based on that picture i would raise my water level a bit and cut back on the air and try to get smaller bubbles.

I have a recirculating model so its a bit different, but thats what I do when the bubbles in the neck are that big.

Brandon
 
I see, didnt mean to doubt you guys, just curious as to why. Just trying to figure out things and understand.


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7545883#post7545883 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bkv1997
Based on that picture i would raise my water level a bit and cut back on the air and try to get smaller bubbles.

I have a recirculating model so its a bit different, but thats what I do when the bubbles in the neck are that big.

Brandon


Thats exactly what I would have thought as well. So thats what I have been doing. And then the foam slows down even more. It gets darker, but takes even longer to fill the cup up if at all.
 
I don't think the beckett can be bad, unless it is totally broken somewhere. The cylinder size of the MR-1 is pretty small and with that big of a pump can be your problem. You want pressure over flow to run a beckett. Flow pumps just don't cut it.

I went from a 1700gph/27' max head pump to a 1700gph/39' max head pump on my dual beckett recircualting, and the new pump is WAY better. It is totally consistant now, it wasn't with the other pump. I tune it in and that's it, besides cleaning the skimmer.
 
sellout -

Based on the picture you have above, you are getting leakage around the beckett. There should not be any bubbles in hte beckett chamber like in your photo above. The bubbles are coming from leakage out the split in the bottom of the beckett. You can wrap it with teflon tape as i described above to stop the leakage.

That being said, it 'could' be due to the high flow through the beckett. Try cutting back the discharge flow slightly.

Also, remove the filter floss from the air suction. You do not appear to be getting enough air flow, based on the large bubbles in the neck. Then try to adjust to ultra small bubbles. At about 35 SCFH air flow per beckett, my bubbles were barely visible.

Bryan
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7545922#post7545922 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ereefic
I don't think the beckett can be bad, unless it is totally broken somewhere. The cylinder size of the MR-1 is pretty small and with that big of a pump can be your problem. You want pressure over flow to run a beckett. Flow pumps just don't cut it.

I went from a 1700gph/27' max head pump to a 1700gph/39' max head pump on my dual beckett recircualting, and the new pump is WAY better. It is totally consistant now, it wasn't with the other pump. I tune it in and that's it, besides cleaning the skimmer.


I didnt think a beckett could go bad either. haha

The pump I have is actually rated for 1550, its the Wahoo Uno series from Sequence. It is pressure rated and is rated for 32 ft of head.

I also have an MR2, not an MR1. O)




<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7546049#post7546049 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RGibson
Sellout007 what size pvc pipe do you have on the return pipe from the skimmer?


The return is 1.5"




<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7546052#post7546052 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bryan89
sellout -

Based on the picture you have above, you are getting leakage around the beckett. There should not be any bubbles in hte beckett chamber like in your photo above. The bubbles are coming from leakage out the split in the bottom of the beckett. You can wrap it with teflon tape as i described above to stop the leakage.

That being said, it 'could' be due to the high flow through the beckett. Try cutting back the discharge flow slightly.

Also, remove the filter floss from the air suction. You do not appear to be getting enough air flow, based on the large bubbles in the neck. Then try to adjust to ultra small bubbles. At about 35 SCFH air flow per beckett, my bubbles were barely visible.

Bryan

I will go wrap the beckett as soon as I am done posting this and then report back.

After that I will either try cutting back on the flow or add the second beckett. Although the second beckett I have has the black piece broken that holds the top of the beckett together when it is screwed in and the acrylic housing is cracked (tried to repair with weld on, not sure how it works though) so it will definetly leak air in. Should I not even use it then or would it still be beneficial?


And you are confusing me about the air and large diameter bubbles. I thought *decreasing* the air makes smaller bubbles??? So why would I remove the filter floss??? That allows more air in?

And about your comment on the barely visible bubbles, that is *exactly* what I see on the Life Reef skimmers at work. They almost look like they arent even there.
 
I wrapped the beckett and it seemed to cut back on some of the bubbles. There are still some present. The leak is comming from the side of the beckett where the bubble in the becket is. Not the holes, but from the seam where the two sides meet.
 
You need to get the return pipe out of the water it is putting back pressure on the skimmer. The size of the pump is not the problem.And the vents you have are not going to do the job.
 
I need to get what out of the water? The pipe that is in my sump? Its barely in the water as it is now. And what vents are we talking about? The PVC that I have going straight up? Ill go adjust it a bit more....


I have been messing around witht he skimmer for about 2 hours now, and lookey what I finallyh got...


DSC06516.jpg





Im going to add this beckett tonight as well and see how it goes as long as no one says not to... Its POS

DSC06517.jpg
 
GRRRRR

I adjusted the pipe in my sump, and as soon as I took it out of the water, the skimmer needed more adjustment. *sigh*

The waterlvl dropped, my foam went away.... Back to square one.
 
Hey sellout,

Never forget that a good skimmer takes out only what is in the water. IF you have great parameters already with very little protein in the water, then you will get less skimmate and also it will be more dilute looking as you are trying to force more out of the skimmer than it really can due to the lack of proteins and organics.

Peace,
John H.
 
The water level dropped because the back pressure went away.

If the water in your sump goes up and down with evaporation and the pipe is in the water it will make the water in your skimmer go up and down, causing more adjustment in the long run.

Leave it out of the water and adjust it and you will be better off in the long run.
 
I'd put it back to where you were getting results and let it run for awhile and observe. Making too many changes too fast can really send your head into a tail spin, cause your not sure what is helping and what is hurting.

If your output pipe is submerged a little and the water level isn't going up and down in the skimmer (due to a syphon), then I wouldn't worry about it.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7548224#post7548224 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by trueblackpercula
OK THAT WAS WELL WRITTEN WHAT ABOUT MY DELIMA :)

What injector do you have?

If it has thumb screws, then loosen them up and twist and pull. Then pull the beckett out, it just slips in.

If it slips together, just slip the top part out and slide the injector out.
 
ok thanks got it. Now for my second question i have a new MR2 singel becket with a blueline hd40 pump. It is very difficult for me to adjust it, I let the water rise 4 inches from the black box. Then I open up the air 3/4 of the way open and the water level goes down. Is this normal and how long before i make more adjustments every 2 hours or so? I hate this thing............ until it starts to work :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7548213#post7548213 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rufio173
Hey sellout,

Never forget that a good skimmer takes out only what is in the water. IF you have great parameters already with very little protein in the water, then you will get less skimmate and also it will be more dilute looking as you are trying to force more out of the skimmer than it really can due to the lack of proteins and organics.

Peace,
John H.


Yeah, thats what I am trying to determine. Im just not sure which one it is. I have a sick fish and a few nasty looking corals. Im not sure if my water paramaters are the cause or something else either.


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7548216#post7548216 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bkv1997
The water level dropped because the back pressure went away.

If the water in your sump goes up and down with evaporation and the pipe is in the water it will make the water in your skimmer go up and down, causing more adjustment in the long run.

Leave it out of the water and adjust it and you will be better off in the long run.

Well, my sump is designed so the first chamber never fluctuates. Its always constant. The right half is the only thing that goes up and down.



<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7548234#post7548234 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ereefic
I'd put it back to where you were getting results and let it run for awhile and observe. Making too many changes too fast can really send your head into a tail spin, cause your not sure what is helping and what is hurting.

If your output pipe is submerged a little and the water level isn't going up and down in the skimmer (due to a syphon), then I wouldn't worry about it.

Too late. O)

The reason I had it submerged a bit was because the water splashes everywhere and I get salt creep on everything under my tank.




Im going to add my second injector right now. Ill post when I am done.
 
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