My Black Ocellaris pair are spawning!!!

[EileenLH]

Thanks, rkelman! They still look good today, so I'm going to take your advice and try to wait it out until after meta before I change the water. As for the phyto, why do you stop tinting the water with it after a few days?

 

[rkelman]

clowns101: Yep that's pretty much it except I don't feed BBS or flake. I feed otohime. AmQuel detoxifies ammonia.

EileenLH: I stop tinting the water after 4-5 days so I can start them on Otohime A.

 

[bguile]

Wow. I don't think I've ever read almost every word in a thread this long with so much anticipation. What you've done is nothing short of awesome! I hope that your efforts are greatly rewarded once your broods reach maturity.

Couple questions:
-Did you ever try raising the peppermint shrimp fry?
- The otohime that you use, is that something that you culture or you continuously purchase to feed? I've never heard of it until this thread. How much do you purchase to feed one of your grow out tanks?

 

[svynx]

Man, quite a read. My two occelaris clowns laid eggs about 2 weeks ago. I didn't even see them until I saw the silver eyes. Might have been about 50 of them. I'd love to raise the next clutch, but I just don't have the time/room for the setup required. Hopefully they will continue to breed once I find another place to live.
Congrats with all your success.

 

[rkelman]

Thanks guys. No I haven't tried pepperment shrimp. I really don't have alot of space. I just started a new tank / sump for anemone's with T5 lighting so we'll see how that goes. I just got it started on Sunday so its not ready for nem's yet. I'll maybe take some pics on the weekend. Hopefully the water is balance by then and I can add some stock.

Otohime is a dry pellet feed that comes in many different sizes.

 

[rkelman]

Oh yah here's the new batch!

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[bguile]

I read earlier that you've had the parents eat eggs from the clutch. I believe I've read that they do that once the eggs have become damaged or unviable. Have you ever tried removing the tile immediately after the eggs have been laid and putting them under the airstone for aeration?

 

[john68camaro]

Those egg's are almost in the shape of a heart!

 

[phil519]

I read earlier that you've had the parents eat eggs from the clutch. I believe I've read that they do that once the eggs have become damaged or unviable. Have you ever tried removing the tile immediately after the eggs have been laid and putting them under the airstone for aeration?

i don't want to speak for rkelman but afaik he's been doing the tile method for the last 350 clowns...:lol:

it was only initially when the clowns were laying eggs on the LR that his clowns occasionally cannibalized the eggs (like mine did...:sad2.

rkelman - congratulations on the latest batch. I need to get me some tile. All of mine are unwieldy 2x2 pieces.

 

[clowns101]

Okay rkelman,
Tell me if this would work.
Spwaning Paris
1.Ocellaris 2.Percula 3.Skunks 4.Clarkii 5.Tomatos 6.Maroons
Grow out Systems
1.Ocellaris 2.Percula 3.Skunks 4.Clarkii 5.Tomatos 6.Maroons
All tanks will be 10 gallons exept for the larger clowns.Do you think it would work?

 

[rkelman]

Okay rkelman,
Tell me if this would work.
Spwaning Paris
1.Ocellaris 2.Percula 3.Skunks 4.Clarkii 5.Tomatos 6.Maroons
Grow out Systems
1.Ocellaris 2.Percula 3.Skunks 4.Clarkii 5.Tomatos 6.Maroons
All tanks will be 10 gallons exept for the larger clowns.Do you think it would work?

Sorry maybe its been just a long day but I don't understand what you are asking. If you are asking if you can use 10g tanks for those fish in growout and for broodstock my answer would be yes and no.. I think as broodstock tanks for Ocellaris / Percs and skunks they are ok. For the others I'd go with 15's. Keep in mind my experience with these larger species is nil. 10g tanks for growouts would not be my choice. I like my 15's for growout. I don't think the larvae tanks for maroons or the other larger species needs to be any bigger.

i don't want to speak for rkelman but afaik he's been doing the tile method for the last 350 clowns...:lol:

it was only initially when the clowns were laying eggs on the LR that his clowns occasionally cannibalized the eggs (like mine did...:sad2.

rkelman - congratulations on the latest batch. I need to get me some tile. All of mine are unwieldy 2x2 pieces.

Mine did eat the eggs on a few different occasions even on the tile. See explanation below. You could just cut the tile.. Mine were 1x1 tiles that I cut.

Those egg's are almost in the shape of a heart!

They are aren't they..

I read earlier that you've had the parents eat eggs from the clutch. I believe I've read that they do that once the eggs have become damaged or unviable. Have you ever tried removing the tile immediately after the eggs have been laid and putting them under the airstone for aeration?

I have had them eat eggs on a couple occasions. They sometimes eat them due to damage or if they are unfertilized. In my case I believe it was stress. I went through a period where they were eating them the day before the hatch. When that started I pulled the tile a day early and aerated them with success.

 

[clowns101]

I only wanted to know the if the size of the tanks would be okay.I dont plan on useing a 10 gallon for Clarkiis Tomatos or Maroons.I was thinking like a 15 or 20.If a 15 would be better I could get thoses but will have to look for them.I dont tend to see them very often but will try and get some!

Thanks

 

[rkelman]

I'd go with the 15's.

 

[clowns101]

Well I just check with the petstore and they cant get in 15.When they can its cheaper to get 20s.I have decided to just put the clowns all in 20s mabey some in 10s but not many.They will all grow out in 20s though.Also on your grow out do you have a main filtration unit or do you have a bubble filter on all tanks?

Thanks

 

[rkelman]

What about getting 30's and putting a divider in? Just a thought.. 20's are ok I'm sure. My growout is plumbed to the 75g sump with bioballs / skimmer / filter floss and a DSB.

 

[clowns101]

I could do that!That would also allow me to keep some anemones for the clowns to get used to!Thanks for the idea!

 

[Newby-Reefer]

Your going to have to pack those maroons in there pretty tight to avoid aggression. I think Joyce D. Wilkerson recommended a 40G or larger for clowns like Maroons if you want to keep them for breeding. Just like cyclids too small of a tank and they wont breed for you.

 

[clowns101]

Well I cant say that if the tank is to small they wont breed.I have had many many many years in the fresh water breeding and have breed Cichlids in tanks that are about 10 gallons and have had great succsess with it.

 

[Newby-Reefer]

Depends on the cichlid. Frontosa wont breed in a 10 gallon either will large peacocks yet smaller stuff like an auratus or the South American rams yes.

Same principla with clowns a big 6" female Clarkii with a 4" male wont breed in a 10 or a 15 I would say 33 would be the smallest I would try. There's just not enough space.

 

[dazed]

Oh yah here's the new batch!

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rkelamn;Sweet nice to see that they have gotten back into the swing of things. I know you have had your grow out setup for a while now; anything at this point you would change or do differently? If i remember correctly you have the drains draining into a larger raceway which feeds down to the sump and then back to the tanks correct. How much flow would you guess the system is doing & which return pump are you using? I am thinking of setting up something just trying to figure out what pump to use for the return.