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I am going to try and find some time to read the link today.
Just an update on Saturday morning i was able to start feeding the bbs and have continued to do so, this was the first time i have seen the feeding response that i have been hoping to see, they went nuts chasing them around. I did have a small set back on Sunday while doing a water change somehow while i was removing the water from the tank one larvae got stuck at the top of the ammonia badge and well you know what happened to him.
I have also been offering just a small pinch of the oto starter pack as well in the mornings but it's hard to tell if they are eating any of that.
I plan to keep feeding with rot's & bbs. Do i still need to be adding the phyto to the larvae tank?
Ammonia still reads safe, i just hope to see some of them go through meta. this time around.
Just an update on Saturday morning i was able to start feeding the bbs and have continued to do so, this was the first time i have seen the feeding response that i have been hoping to see, they went nuts chasing them around. I did have a small set back on Sunday while doing a water change somehow while i was removing the water from the tank one larvae got stuck at the top of the ammonia badge and well you know what happened to him.
I have also been offering just a small pinch of the oto starter pack as well in the mornings but it's hard to tell if they are eating any of that.
I plan to keep feeding with rot's & bbs. Do i still need to be adding the phyto to the larvae tank?
Ammonia still reads safe, i just hope to see some of them go through meta. this time around.
dazed
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At what point should i stop with the rot's?
can they survive on just bbs? and the introduction of dry foods?
I have 17 of them, i do not have my notes in front of me but i think this is either day 8 or 9.
so i am hopeful that the meta. process is close to happening.
The mamma laid new eggs sat. night as well.
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can they survive on just bbs? and the introduction of dry foods?
I have 17 of them, i do not have my notes in front of me but i think this is either day 8 or 9.
so i am hopeful that the meta. process is close to happening.
The mamma laid new eggs sat. night as well.
thegoaliestaxi
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I keep the rots going until about day 25 -- but less and less after you really notice them eating the dry stuff and pretty much everyone has morphed.
Somewhere around day 14-16-ish is when mine start to morph. I had a straggler tho that was about a week behind the others last time. The first true sign I had was a tiny little stripe on the head. Then they spent most of the time at the bottom rather than zipping all around.
Way to go!!
Somewhere around day 14-16-ish is when mine start to morph. I had a straggler tho that was about a week behind the others last time. The first true sign I had was a tiny little stripe on the head. Then they spent most of the time at the bottom rather than zipping all around.
Way to go!!
dazed
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I started the bbs on the morning of day 5. This time around the larvae do look diferent, kind of like little peanuts with tails.
My last attempt i had one survive 21 days and did not morph before dieing.
Fb; so no water changes during meta.? just additions...
hmmm. you never change any water do you.:rollface:
thegoaliestaxi
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Oh jeepers. I'm sorry. Yes indeed I start live BBS around day 6 or 7. (I have gold stripe maroons) After that - then I start to taper off the rots little by little. After they have all morphed, I taper waaaay back on the rots and start the dry stuff - but continue to give the live BBS. Eventually, I drop the live BBS to everyother feeding and then every other day while switching over to frozen BBS and cyclops.
Day 25 is what is suggested in the clownfish book - that's why I go that long -- but again by that time it's really very little each day.
Sorry again for confusion
Day 25 is what is suggested in the clownfish book - that's why I go that long -- but again by that time it's really very little each day.
Sorry again for confusion
rkelman
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I stop with rots after they are totally on BBS. Usually 8 days.
Nice clutch of eggs. Why not use a tile and save the whole snagger thing? I do water changes as necessary. I would definitely do at least one before meta. To get me through meta without messing with things much. (My water changes take hours because I drip the new water back in.) I have no choice but to do water changes to keep ahead of the ammonia. It seems FB lives where there is no ammonia You'll know meta because they stop being quick tails and start being waggy tails Also they usually get a headband. (or Ocellaris do anyways)
Nice clutch of eggs. Why not use a tile and save the whole snagger thing? I do water changes as necessary. I would definitely do at least one before meta. To get me through meta without messing with things much. (My water changes take hours because I drip the new water back in.) I have no choice but to do water changes to keep ahead of the ammonia. It seems FB lives where there is no ammonia
You'll know meta because they stop being quick tails and start being waggy tails Also they usually get a headband. (or Ocellaris do anyways)
dazed
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13088063#post13088063 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by thegoaliestaxi
Oh jeepers. I'm sorry. Yes indeed I start live BBS around day 6 or 7. (I have gold stripe maroons) After that - then I start to taper off the rots little by little. After they have all morphed, I taper waaaay back on the rots and start the dry stuff - but continue to give the live BBS. Eventually, I drop the live BBS to everyother feeding and then every other day while switching over to frozen BBS and cyclops.
Day 25 is what is suggested in the clownfish book - that's why I go that long -- but again by that time it's really very little each day.
Sorry again for confusion
No worries, i was just curious what everyone else is feeding at what time etc. thank you for the information.
dazed
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13088111#post13088111 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rkelman
I stop with rots after they are totally on BBS. Usually 8 days.
Nice clutch of eggs. Why not use a tile and save the whole snagger thing? I do water changes as necessary. I would definitely do at least one before meta. To get me through meta without messing with things much. (My water changes take hours because I drip the new water back in.) I have no choice but to do water changes to keep ahead of the ammonia. It seems FB lives where there is no ammonia
Sounds like i need to start adding more bbs to the diet then i have been doing probably 60% rot's & 40% bbs for the last couple of days.
I was using a tile but she started changing nest spots or she would lay half on the tile and the other half on a non removable rock, then she started shoving the tile out of the way. She even managed to knock it off where i had it wedged under a rock and did some fragging for me on a birdsnest coral that happen to be in the path of the falling tile. So i gave in and let her have it her way.
What i like the best about the snagger is it keeps the eggs with the male for the longest amount of time and i figure he is going to do a better job then me; trying to guess at a bubble rate for the eggs.
My water changes i have been doing since day 3 and mine take forever to as i also drip back to the tank.
Yeah fb lives where there is no ammonia must be nice, lol
I will keep an eye out for the meta. changes as well.
dazed
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Update: well toady starts day 11 and i have around 16 of them i think; over the last 2 days i have only fed rot's to them one time and i have stepped up the bbs.
How do you know if your adding to many bbs to the tank?
I have also been offering otohime in the am (just a small pinch)
The ammonia has stayed safe this time around.
but they still appear to be larvae? at least i think so, i have not noticed any meta. is this ok?
How do you know if your adding to many bbs to the tank?
I have also been offering otohime in the am (just a small pinch)
The ammonia has stayed safe this time around.
but they still appear to be larvae? at least i think so, i have not noticed any meta. is this ok?
dazed
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Should all of the bbs that are added be consumed before adding more? i noticed this morning that some are kind of gray in color so i am guessing that they are older and not very nutritional for the larvae?
Since i have cut back on the rotifer feeding & adding phyto to the water i noticed that some of them were facing the glass (the tank is still covered on all sides) so i added some IA to the water to pull them off the sides i hope that is ok?
Since i have cut back on the rotifer feeding & adding phyto to the water i noticed that some of them were facing the glass (the tank is still covered on all sides) so i added some IA to the water to pull them off the sides i hope that is ok?
rkelman
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Wow my last batch of Ocellaris are at 7 days today and most were partially through meta yesterday. Most have headbands ect today. I think the BBS should be consumed before adding more. If they aren't you must be adding a bit too much. Yes the phyto is fine if that's what you need to do to get them off the sides. Once you get through meta you won't have to do that anymore.
dazed
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ok i will cut back on the bbs i guess, but is there a fine line to deal with? What i mean is i currently have 2 bbs hatchery going (i use the decapped ones from seahorsesource) and if we are only supposed to feed the instar 1 to the larvae due to their small size & nutritional value. They do not stay in that stage very long so i have been taking the extra ones and feeding my reef with them, the problem for me then becomes that i do not have a constant supply of bbs for the larvae even with 2 hatchery's going. Maybe i am trying to hatch to many at a time? I have been using a 1/2 teaspoon for each one, and it takes anywhere from 24-48 hrs for them to hatch.
For the meta. process maybe i just don't know what i am looking for but i have looked in the tank from the top and half of them look like they are orange and the other half are still brown, i did not see a headstripe on any of them.
correct me if i am wrong but isn't part of the meta. process when they actually start to look like little clownfish? because mine still look like baby guppies is all i can think of for comparison?
they sure don't look like clown's yet?
For the meta. process maybe i just don't know what i am looking for but i have looked in the tank from the top and half of them look like they are orange and the other half are still brown, i did not see a headstripe on any of them.
correct me if i am wrong but isn't part of the meta. process when they actually start to look like little clownfish? because mine still look like baby guppies is all i can think of for comparison?
they sure don't look like clown's yet?
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