My Breeding attempt - Perculas:

[jmadison]

Shucks man! Not to further add to your apprehension to moving mom and pops, but dont clowns also postpone the laying process often when moved to new digs? Having no experience, this is just what ive read/heard, but thatd also be a bummer if u set it all up and nothing happened for several months... or more. Its too bad target feeding mom in the DT is so diff.

 

[dazed]

Yes it is a possibility that she gets spooked and either takes a break or stops altogether. That is part of the reason i have been hesitant about what to do. I have been feeding her well in the dt to see if there is any difference in the next couple of attempts, i guess time will tell.

 

[jmadison]

*keeping my fingers and toes crossed*

 

[dazed]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14795670#post14795670 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmadison
*keeping my fingers and toes crossed*

:lol: Thanks.

Well last night i introduced bbs for this current small batch and had a positive feeding response so i will have to see how it goes.

I don't know if anyone remembers but a while back in this thread i had mentioned that another hobbyist that lives about 40 minutes from me had contacted me about trying to raise some of his occ. eggs. The first hurdle was getting his pair to accept a tile instead of a large piece of live rock, now that we have gotten his pair to successfully lay 3 batches and counting on a tile for easier transportation to me, i was wondering if we need to try and do anything special for the road trip? I figure around a 40 min. trip from his house to mine, do we need to bubble or aerate the eggs at all or would the car ride/motion be enough for the trip?

 

[landlord]

FWIW - I'd spend 15-20 bucks on those battery power bubblers. It can't hurt and can probably only increase your chances of not having to drive back 10 days later for another batch

Kurt

 

[rkelman]

I agree with Kurt. I have a power inverter that I use to transport my fish. I put them in a pail and use the power inverter to power a air pump and a heater.

 

[dazed]

Thanks guys for the suggestions, I think he has the battery powered type.

I like the idea of using a power inverter to power a air pump and a heater i may have to do the same if i take some of the babies to another store that is interested in them, as it is more of a drive. My lfs is only 5 minutes from the house so for now i have been just scoop,bag, and drive.

 

[billsreef]

Eggs are very resilient. A small Tupperware container with just barely enough water to cover the eggs is all you need. Nice and simple

 

[dazed]

Ahh the kiss method i can work with that as well, any real concern with temperature drop though it should be a short drive for him (45 min. tops).

 

[rkelman]

Wrap the container in a towel?

 

[dazed]

Sure wouldn't hurt.

 

[billsreef]

A towel should keep temperature fairly stable for the short drive :thumbsup:

 

[rrcg50]

i breed occs and am having a large die off a few hours after they are hatched out. i think it due to the amount of aeration during hatch out. can i see what type of stones you are using to aerate the eggs

 

[dazed]

Nothing fancy i use the bubble wands, when i am done with the hatching i slide it under the heater it makes a nice curtain of bubbles that disperses the water around the heater and it also keeps the fry away from the heater as well.

 

[dazed]

Well over the weekend i ended up moving a batch out of a 5g tank and into a new 10g home so that they can stretch out & grow a bit more. Total headcount from this group was 81. They seem to like their new home.

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and some more interesting news for those that follow this thread you know that i have had to deal with temperature issues during the colder months due to the location and area that i have my grow out tanks in. Well yesterday we got hit with some very warm weather for my area the temp. yesterday reached 97 deg. here. By the time i made it home to check on the tanks in the garage they were pushing 87-88 deg.:eek1:

No losses but now i need to start thinking of a way to deal with the coming summer months, the temp. today is supposed to hit around 94! and then start dropping off back into the 70's for the coming weekend. So any ideas? the tanks do have glass lids to prevent anyone jumping and i thought of removing those but don't know if it's worth the risk.

Any ideas??????

I thought for sure by the time i got to check on the tanks that i would have had clown soup but they seem fine for now at least. Even the (6) that are only around 2 weeks old made it through, guess they are somewhat resilient, lol.

 

[rEd86]

Looks like you're going to have to move everything out of the garage!

So here are my random thoughts:
You are going to have a challenge dealing with maintaining temperatures when your garage fluctuates that much unless you also add a chiller to the tank. Given the size of your tanks you might get by with a smaller unit that isn't too expensive. That way the chiller kicks on if the temperature is too hot & heaters kick on when it’s too cold.

It doesn't look like your lights are adding too much to the tank but you also may consider just leaving them off on days when it hits 94deg.

Is the ceiling finish in the garage or do you see the joist for the roof? You could look at putting in vents that would help with some of the heat.

You could do what my dad did for a while - throw a 20oz frozen bottle in the tank when it's going to be hot to help with the heat. Then each evening he'd take the bottle out, freeze it and start the whole process over in the morning.

Good luck.

--Ed

 

[melev]

It sure is nice to see a bunch of clownfish in a clean tank.

For heat, you can point a fan at the surface to increase evaporation. However, salinity will rise until more RO water is added. Layers of bird netting used as a screen would keep jumpers in the tank, hopefully. It would obstruct the fan's wind a bit though.

Ed's got some good ideas. My quarantine tank gets hot and I drop in a frozen 20 oz bottle during the day if the tank reaches 82F.

 

[rkelman]

Wow that's hot. Honestly I think they are going to need some air conditioning.. Can you wall off a small area even with foam and run a small air conditioner?

 

[dazed]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14870079#post14870079 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rEd86
Looks like you're going to have to move everything out of the garage!

So here are my random thoughts:
You are going to have a challenge dealing with maintaining temperatures when your garage fluctuates that much unless you also add a chiller to the tank. Given the size of your tanks you might get by with a smaller unit that isn't too expensive. That way the chiller kicks on if the temperature is too hot & heaters kick on when it’s too cold.

It doesn't look like your lights are adding too much to the tank but you also may consider just leaving them off on days when it hits 94deg.

Is the ceiling finish in the garage or do you see the joist for the roof? You could look at putting in vents that would help with some of the heat.

You could do what my dad did for a while - throw a 20oz frozen bottle in the tank when it's going to be hot to help with the heat. Then each evening he'd take the bottle out, freeze it and start the whole process over in the morning.

Good luck.

--Ed

If i could i would move the setup but it has to stay where it is for now besides challenges are fun and are one of the reasons we play this game:lol:

That was my first thought yesterday as well a chiller but how do you plumb in multiple tanks? (3) 5g tanks (1) 10g tank & (1) 40g tank, and they are not all stacked close to each other. Add to that the fact that i am in California and already getting killed on the electric bill not sure i can afford to even add one.

The only lights that may be a factor would be the ones on my 40g (4) T5's.
for the 5g tanks i use a 8w T5 and the new 10g tank is a leftover freshwater setup from i can't even remember when.

Yes the garage ceiling is unfinished and metal as well adding vent's to the roof is an option.

The frozen water bottle would be a good & cheap alternative for now, thanks for the ideas & help.

 

[dazed]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14870332#post14870332 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
It sure is nice to see a bunch of clownfish in a clean tank.

For heat, you can point a fan at the surface to increase evaporation. However, salinity will rise until more RO water is added. Layers of bird netting used as a screen would keep jumpers in the tank, hopefully. It would obstruct the fan's wind a bit though.

Ed's got some good ideas. My quarantine tank gets hot and I drop in a frozen 20 oz bottle during the day if the tank reaches 82F.

Thanks i said the same thing when i got done moving them over their is a little bit of junk from changing them over but not to bad, it sure looks better than my dt i am ready to throw the towel in on that one i now have members of my cuc running around with ha all over them, lol.

fans is a good idea i would need 5 of them though and unfortunately i do not have any kind of ato system in place out there for those tanks, bird netting would work i may have to look into that as well.

Ed did make some very good suggestions for sure. It usually does not get this hot here at all, we hit 95 again today and tomorrow they are forecasting something in the 70's i believe
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