Every week and a half I did a water change. I left my skimmer off. In the 4 week period, I did about 3 water changes. By the third week you will see it start to degrade, I dosed a bit heavily after that. The very first week there was a bunch of crap floating around, but ammonia stayed down so I wasn't too concerned.
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Every week and a half I did a water change. I left my skimmer off. In the 4 week period, I did about 3 water changes. By the third week you will see it start to degrade, I dosed a bit heavily after that. The very first week there was a bunch of crap floating around, but ammonia stayed down so I wasn't too concerned.
I find it interesting that you are unable to get anything to grow afterwards. In a DT, I can see this happening since it absorbs a bit and will slowly release over time. Are you saying you dosed with sand in QT? If so that makes a bit more sense.
Deinonych
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Great, thanks for the info. Very helpful.
Deinonych
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That's good to know. I have a zoa colony that I'm willing to use as a test subject once I'm ready to reintroduce inverts.
Yes, just do some heavy wc, run carbon for a week, as well as skimmer. It appears to be removed for me.
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Flasher Wrasses
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So, I don't think I'm going to treat Paracheilinus spp. wrasses with CP. I have a P. cyaneus in QT that I received from DD last week. He was a little shy the first day, but started swimming in the open by the second day. He was eating mysis from the get go.
I started treating CP @ 40mg/gal on Monday. He acted a little funky and hid for a few hours, but was back swimming around by evening. Behavior and respiration have been normal for the past few days. Today I noticed he was hovering in place in one of the PVC pipes. He still ate well, so I didn't think much of it. Late this afternoon, he started acting very listless with jerky swimming motions. I decided to remove the CP with carbon and Polyfilter. Now, he's laying on the bottom of the tank with shallow breathing. I suspect he won't last much longer.
I had a similar experience with a P. cyaneus (from LA, not DD) last month. Ate well, was active etc. Seemed to do fine initially with CP, then took a sudden turn for the worse 4 days later. Earlier in this thread I noted problems with a P. filamentosus, which also died 3-4 days after dosing CP.
I guess I'll need to stick with copper for this genus, as CP seems to be toxic to them somehow. Interested if anyone else has had similar experiences.
Flasher Wrasses
So, I don't think I'm going to treat Paracheilinus spp. wrasses with CP. I have a P. cyaneus in QT that I received from DD last week. He was a little shy the first day, but started swimming in the open by the second day. He was eating mysis from the get go.
I started treating CP @ 40mg/gal on Monday. He acted a little funky and hid for a few hours, but was back swimming around by evening. Behavior and respiration have been normal for the past few days. Today I noticed he was hovering in place in one of the PVC pipes. He still ate well, so I didn't think much of it. Late this afternoon, he started acting very listless with jerky swimming motions. I decided to remove the CP with carbon and Polyfilter. Now, he's laying on the bottom of the tank with shallow breathing. I suspect he won't last much longer.
I had a similar experience with a P. cyaneus (from LA, not DD) last month. Ate well, was active etc. Seemed to do fine initially with CP, then took a sudden turn for the worse 4 days later. Earlier in this thread I noted problems with a P. filamentosus, which also died 3-4 days after dosing CP.
I guess I'll need to stick with copper for this genus, as CP seems to be toxic to them somehow. Interested if anyone else has had similar experiences.
Deinonych
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Sorry for your loss
I tend to be careful w wrasses & other less resilient fish. I prazi but don't treat w anything unless there are symptoms. I also QT for 90+ days. But occasionally, I still have probs & major questioning of my QT protocols.
Thank you.
I definitely need to change my QT protocol for wrasses. I had a McCosker's that went through observational QT without incident, so perhaps I need to revisit that method.
FWIW, I just put wrasses into observation + prazi. No copper unless symptoms present. They just seem to react badly to CP.
Deinonych
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Really seems that way. I'm kicking myself for not seeing it earlier, but I won't make that mistake again. Thanks!
Alberta-newb
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Sorry for the loss 
. I do appreciate you sharing this. I don't have any wrasses yet, but when I do, I will take a hard look at which meds I use.
I'm currently treating two Potter's and a Latticed Butterfly in one QT with CP after I noticed blood streaks develop on the butterfly. 3 days and so far so good. When I had this symptom appear in the past (I suspect uronema) I would usually lose the fish quickly. I'm hoping this time around I caught it quickly enough and the CP will do its trick.
Despite issues in the past, I honestly feel this is my med of choice for several diseases.
Francis
. I do appreciate you sharing this. I don't have any wrasses yet, but when I do, I will take a hard look at which meds I use. I'm currently treating two Potter's and a Latticed Butterfly in one QT with CP after I noticed blood streaks develop on the butterfly. 3 days and so far so good. When I had this symptom appear in the past (I suspect uronema) I would usually lose the fish quickly. I'm hoping this time around I caught it quickly enough and the CP will do its trick.
Despite issues in the past, I honestly feel this is my med of choice for several diseases.
Francis
Divers Den has some of the cleanest livestock available in the hobby. I've had nothing but perfect experiences with them. LA, not so much. I'm considering not even quarantining fish I buy from DD anymore, based on my experiences with them and on their description about how they quarantine and prophylactically treat their specimens.
Alberta-newb
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I so wish DD would ship to Canada! I subscribe to their updates and just dream about the livestock that comes from there
Deinonych
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Sorry for the loss
I'm currently treating two Potter's and a Latticed Butterfly in one QT with CP after I noticed blood streaks develop on the butterfly. 3 days and so far so good. When I had this symptom appear in the past (I suspect uronema) I would usually lose the fish quickly. I'm hoping this time around I caught it quickly enough and the CP will do its trick.
Despite issues in the past, I honestly feel this is my med of choice for several diseases.
Francis
Thanks! Although it's awful to lose a fish, hopefully this information will be helpful to others. I think it goes to show that there is no "one size fits all" treatment for QT. I still feel that CP is the best treatment to prevent cryptocaryon, amyloodinium and other ciliated parasite diseases, in general.
