My journey using Chloroquine Phosphate begins...

las said:
I use crypto pro by national fish pharm... It's quinine sulfate I believe. I dose everyday and do a 25% water change everyday. This is supposed to be done for 7-10 days
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Those are the same instructions I was given by Mr. Fishman at Fishman chemical to dose chloroquine phosphate. Also as a side note Mr. Fishman also told me that chloroquine phosphate should not be used to treat Velvet.
 
Newsmyrna80 said:
Those are the same instructions I was given by Mr. Fishman at Fishman chemical to dose chloroquine phosphate. Also as a side note Mr. Fishman also told me that chloroquine phosphate should not be used to treat Velvet.
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have ypu ever tried this treatment for longer than 10 days at a time?
 
Newsmyrna80 said:
I dosed 750mg for a 20 gal QT per Fishman Chemical where I got the CP. however, since I dosed and had that problem they told me to dose 500 mg. maybe that is what the problem was but I was told it is hard to overdose CP. I'm pretty sure it they do have ich in their gills. None of the fish have spots on their bodies. The Royal Gramma is breathing very hard and listing every once in a while. I'm not sure how much longer he's gonna live. Does anyone think a dip wit Methylene will help? I'd like to give this fish some relief but I just don't know what to do at this point. I put an air stone in the tank just to up the oxygen some. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Sorry what is the exact dosing instructions?

(1) 500 mg for 20G first day
(2) do 25% water change, and dose another 500mg for 2nd day?
(3) repeat 4 times?
 
I got my qs but I don't think I'm going to use it. While I was waiting I was doing some reading about copper and I happened upon and old thread somewhere that talked about using pennies. Sooo. I gave it a go. I'm fish only and my system is about 300 gallons with a lot of big tangs. Ich has plagued me for over a year now. My hippo and powder blue are the worst. So, what I did first was to throw a dozen older pennies(96 and older Canadian and 82 and older American) into my filter socks. Had them in there about a week and noticed ich was getting better. Not a lot but better. So after some thinking on it I reasoned that there wasn't enough flow getting to the pennies so I removed them and proceeded to take them and drill a small hole in about 15 of them and run a piece of string through them. I placed them directly in flow that comes out of my algae scrubber. It's been about a week and a half and for the first time since u basically got started in this hobby my fish are totally free of ich. They are eating like pigs and seem to be super happy. Colors are incredible. I bought a copper test but its not reading any copper at all. My plan is to leave the pennies in place for another 2-3 weeks then remove them and run some copisorb and filter pads to remove the copper. So , my cure up till now cost me pennies! I'm keeping a real close eye one the fish and I'm prepared to do a massive water change if the start showing any signs of distress. Also I noticed that my one and only hermit is still alive. Isn't a lot of copper supposed to kill hermits? Anyway. I'll post some updates as time goes on. I still got the qs as backup
 
vaporize said:
Sorry what is the exact dosing instructions?

(1) 500 mg for 20G first day
(2) do 25% water change, and dose another 500mg for 2nd day?
(3) repeat 4 times?
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When I ordered the CP on 1/3 the dosage Fishman gave me was 750mg for 20 gal everyday with 2 gallon water change before next dose for 10 days. This nearly killed all my fish. After three days I did a big water change and put a poly filter in. The fish rebounded and I was going to try CP again. I called Fishman again and they gave me the dosing instructions as listed in your (1) and (2). He did not mention how long to do it.
 
las said:
have ypu ever tried this treatment for longer than 10 days at a time?
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No, after 3 days the first go around all fish were in bad shape. Did massive water change. I've lost 4 fish. The remaining 2 are doing ok so I tried CP again at the second recommended dose provided by Mr. Fishman. I'm on day three right now.
 
Day 13...All is well, no symptoms for 13 days now. This is using the 40mg/g once and done as per the instructions on the bottle from the vet.
 
Newsmyrna80 said:
When I ordered the CP on 1/3 the dosage Fishman gave me was 750mg for 20 gal everyday with 2 gallon water change before next dose for 10 days. This nearly killed all my fish. After three days I did a big water change and put a poly filter in. The fish rebounded and I was going to try CP again. I called Fishman again and they gave me the dosing instructions as listed in your (1) and (2). He did not mention how long to do it.
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DO NOT keep dosing with CP. The 750mg per 20g is correct but you don't keep adding to it, day after day. You do that with Quinine Sulfate.

I've used both and I've had great success with both. I treated CP once, unless you do a WC then you need to calculate what you need to add back in.

All the ranges I've seen have been as little as 10mg/g to 80mg/g with 40mg/g being the most common.

If you treat longer than 10 or so days, a waterchange and redosing would be a good idea.

I have bought fish at a LFS already knowing they had ich and this stuff hasn't let me down yet.
 
i3oosted said:
DO NOT keep dosing with CP. The 750mg per 20g is correct but you don't keep adding to it, day after day. You do that with Quinine Sulfate.

I've used both and I've had great success with both. I treated CP once, unless you do a WC then you need to calculate what you need to add back in.

All the ranges I've seen have been as little as 10mg/g to 80mg/g with 40mg/g being the most common.

If you treat longer than 10 or so days, a waterchange and redosing would be a good idea.

I have bought fish at a LFS already knowing they had ich and this stuff hasn't let me down yet.
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Thank you for clearing the dosing up. I do not understand how I got 2 different dosing regimens from the same company. I dosed 350 mg (20 gal QT) Sunday. Then a 2 gallon water change Monday and dosed 350 mg again. Which equates to the 40mg/gallon dosage. The remaining 2 fish are eating and breathing ok. No spots or scratching. I'll leave it for 10 days then do a water change. By the way I have not seen any spots since I dosed on 1/8.
 
cabinetman123 said:
Anybody use the QS off eBay??
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Couldn't you get a hold of CP? I have used quinine in the past in a QT and found it nuked my bio filter I haven't used it since. I'd never add it to my display. I got mine off of eBay it is the crypto pro sold by national fish pharmacy.
 
I made a mistake in my post. THe stuff I bought of ebay is Chloroquine Phosphate. The stuff crypto pro has in it is chorine sulfate..not spelled right but just to let anyone know reading this that there is two different kinds of drugs being talked about in this thread. THe phospate is only dosed once and the sulfate is dosed more than once..I think lol. Make sure you check!
 
Ya rossco. I knew I spelled it wrong. I just think people are mixing the two up. Qs and Qp are two different drugs that require two
different regiments.
 
Ya its quinine sulfate and chloroquine phosphate... Qs and cp :)

Day 21 of my chloroquine phosphate treatment and still all good ill be ending it at day 30. Then I will be treating with praziquantel for 2 weeks for flukes. It is quite amazing how well the cp works, I'm sold on it. I have 2 new additions in my qt tank that will be getting the cp treatment (3" queen angel and a 1" clown trigger)
 
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Just an FYI for everyone. I have used Chloroquine Phosphate with great success. Chloroquine phosphate will give you a false ammonia reading on the API and other similar ammonia test kits. There is a large and lengthy Chloroquine phosphate thread in the UK reefers forum that has excellent information. UK hobbyists are suggesting using a Salifert test kit instead for more accurate ammonia readings during treatment. Also, many success stories in their thread as well using this drug. One key point that has come up was that many UK hobbyists were having problems using Chloroquine Phosphate and hyposalinity together. Those that did had numerous losses with the lower salinity level in conjunction with this drug. Those that treated chloroquine phosphate at normal salinity levels were having nearly no losses during treatment.

Here is the thread:

http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/showthread.php?t=510239

The easiest place to find this drug in small doses is:

http://www.thomaslabs.com/products/...roquine-phosphate-raw-powder-in-a-botlle.aspx
 
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