My new 600 gallon reef

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9372075#post9372075 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
doesn't look too shy...at least it's not crammed under a rock! :D
He has found the cave on the right rock grouping and seems to be sharing it with the Naso. He does make a quick exit when I feed the tank, which should be a good sign.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9370855#post9370855 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lunchbucket
:lol: Thanks for the acclimation photos **smart butt :D **

You only get 3 fish this time?

What on the list for next order? And when you planning on getting it in?

Love the pics
Lunchbucket
There were 4 total, small order...... I might look to place another order next week if I can find anything interesting on the lists.

I didn't realize you had this obsession with skimmers until I read a few of your posts. 3 different ones for the same tank in less than a year & a half? Maybe I shouldn't show you mine when you see the tank in person??

I'm not the best with a camera, fish and tank look much better in person....
 
thanks for your response.Looks to me like a great investment.I was considering having to buy a sulfer reactor.I thought this or a remote dsb would be the only way to ward of nitrates.Sand filters are a great way to ward off nitrates altogether without having to buy a sulfer reactor.Much cheaper method aswell.
 
I have a RDSB and they work great, but IMO you must swap out sand with fresh to keep it from reaching its capacity. I don't know how the sand filters work and if there is a time limit on the media, but i would imagine that over time, it would become saturated too.

The nice thing about an RDSB (if you have the room) is that they can be used for multiple purposes like a fuge or a predator free/breeding zone.
 
My new setup will have my sump in the garage so I can add 2 or 3 sumps and tie them together.I was planning to have a dsb.I was also looking into a sulfer reactor.I know the dsb will exaust eventully.I was thinking the sand filters will exaust aswell.I am not sure how long this would take but the differance between them and a dsb is that the sand filters are constantly disturbed buy water moving threw them.I would think the sand filters would need a media change.It doesn't sem any more difficult to change them VS a DSB.I forgot to ask Godwin how long he has had them running on his other tanks.Another question since the filters act as a biological filter when it comes time to change them out how does this affect the tanks inhabitents.Does a remote DSB fair the same when you have to change it out.You are taking a fair amont of the tanks filtration and just replacing it having to reseed it.I guess having more than one sand filter would help.You could switch one then chnge the other a few months later.
 
Steve..I copied the following information for you from Pentair's website. To answer your question, I have not changed the sand in any of my filters, some of which have been running more than a year. To get the process jump started, I did use Marineland's Bio-Spira to accelerate the process.

From Pentair;

Due to its unique shape, the Lifegard Fluidized Bed Filter is an extremely efficient...high capacity “biological” filter. Aquatic organisms excrete toxic ammonia as a metabolic waste product...with additional ammonia produced as food and other organic matter breaks down and decomposes. This toxic ammonia (NH3) is converted to another toxic compound nitrite (NO2) by the Nitrosomonas species of bacteria. The nitrite is then converted to a relatively non toxic compound called nitrate (NO3) by the Nitrobacter species of bacteria. This process is known as “nitrification”. A “biological” filter is a vessel where nitrification occurs and soluble waste is removed. Beneficial bacteria attach to the media within the Lifegard Fluidized Bed Filter... creating a thin film around the sand grains. Water is pumped up through the unit...lifting the sand into a “fluidized bed”. The beneficial bacteria attached to the media draw in dissolved wastes (ammonia and nitrite), oxygen supplied by Rainbow’s exclusive water fall device and other required nutrients from the passing water converting them to relatively harmless nitrate. The sand grains are in continual free fall through the water...resulting in an excellent transfer capability between the liquid and the bacterial film on the media. The enormously high surface area combined with this excellent transfer capability creates the perfect habitat for bacterial growth.

In addition, the sand grains bump into each other frequently...knocking off excess debris and providing a self cleaning function which allows new areas for bacterial growth.The Lifegard Fluidized Bed Filterhas been tested and proven to supply the highest level of effluent water quality and will respond quickly and efficiently to severe changes in ammonia levels caused by over feeding or the addition of too many fish at one time. To obtain highest water quality...a Lifegard Fluidized Bed Filter should be part of the system.

I hope this information helps in your decision.
 
Thanks for the info looks like I will be buying a unit or two for my next setup.I started having nitrate problems aftere 2 years.I originaly looked at buying a fluidized bed filter but you don't see to many people using them.
 
I would think the sand filter would be much easier to maintain, and less likely to cloud the water while doing so. It would be foolish to think that the sand would last forever though, and I would be curious to learn if any tests relating to phosphate have been done on the sand filters.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9374370#post9374370 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
I would think the sand filter would be much easier to maintain, and less likely to cloud the water while doing so. It would be foolish to think that the sand would last forever though, and I would be curious to learn if any tests relating to phosphate have been done on the sand filters.
Here is the result from the output on one of the sand filters on the new tank.

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9374838#post9374838 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Goodwin9
OUTPUT side

I know that is the output side, what was the reading coming into the unit?
 
why do you think that phosphate readings would rise due to these units?I would think it would be more of an algea issue and since it has a constant flow going threw it I would imagine alot less dead spots.If you are using rowa phos I am sure you phos levels would be low to begin with.Phosphates are also an issue with low water quality but with Godwin using a top notch skimmer and rodi unit along with carbon and water changes I don't think phosphate would be an issue.Then again what do I know.Good question
 
well, that reading would definitely get my attention. I firmly believe that sand is a valuable filtration method, but that it does have a finite capacity. Looking at .13 coming out of any part of the system would worry me a bit.

Any idea on the accuracy of the Hanna colorimeter compared with the Merc phosphate test?
 
man really cool sump anyway you could pm the design of it?
im setting uo a 445 gallon tanks and need a good sump design.
thanks

scott
 
As for the colorimeter....very accurate....as for the Phos...coming out....I believe it would be the same going in since these are not phosban type reactors...remember folks the tank is only a month or two old...

Grant
 
I find a good snail population will help with algea cleaning 1 1/2 hermits per gal plus 1 to 2 snails per gal.I had at least 300 snails and hermits in my 150.This helps keep the tank clean.The only problem is hermits kill the snails and each other for the shells.Thats wht my next tank I think I just may keep snails.1 .3 is very low.Nothing to worry about.Very accurate meter from what I have heard.Many phos kits are not accurate.I was going to buy the Milwauke phos meter.I think the Hanna is better
 
I have thousands of snails in my display and not one speck of algal growth. You have to make sure you are buying captive reef appropriate snails though, or they can cause more problems than they are worth!
 
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