My new 600 gallon reef

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I agree, my fish love nori. You can buy about 50 sheets for $5 at an asian store here. Very cheap in my opinion. I also get alot of frozen fish and shrimp for my porcupine fish, cortez stingray, white-eyed moray and trumpetfish. I use my magfloat cleaner as a nori clip.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10549541#post10549541 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tanya72806
CHuck Im sorry I missed this but how often and how much do you do a waterchange ???????? In order for you SPS to flourish you really need to lower ALL of your nutrients. Bring your salinity up to 1.026 also If you have any questions ask away or PM me ;)
I generally do 100 gallon water changes every other week, more if necessary. Salinity dropped a little cause the auto top off failed again last night (3rd time) and pumped 80 gallons of RO into the tank and onto the floor......:mad2:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10549598#post10549598 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Cougarman
Goodwin9 do you use any type of phosphate absorber? I know you have a phosphoban reactor, but sometimes people put other media in it. I use Rowaphos on my tank, and i think its a must if your gonna have alot of fish and corals. I've gotton incredible sps growth since I started using it. Your pH could be higher, but then it is morning, I'm not sure if you have a reverse daylight refugeium or not. I'd raise the alkalinity a little too. Helps reduce the pH swings. Just my opinion though. Maybe a test for Mg would be beneficial aswell. Its levels can affect alkalinity aswell. And again, I dont see the nitrate levels as too much of a problem, however the lower the better.
I use Rowa Phos also and plan on changing out the reactor today.

I forgot to list the Mag reading this morning of 1110.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10550230#post10550230 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AJT
Purple has not caused any problems. There is the occasional chase, but no injuries.

Salinity 1.022 Most people use 1.024 Fish like it less, corals higher

Temp 79 OK
NH3 <.25
NO3 25 Fine for fish & softies, LPS & SPS too high
NO2 .1 Bio filter not handling load Maybe a little more time, water changes, &/or more Live rock/ Less Food
PH 8.0 Too low for SPS/LPS Should be closer to 8.3
Mine is usually lower in the morn & higher in he evening. Lower o2 levels at night drive down PH.

Phos .40 Too high for SPS/ LPS
Alk 8.0/2.86
CA 400 OK but should be closer to 425-440 IMO


If you are feeding alot of flake food like me, it seems to raise waste/PO4 levels. Have you gone to oriental market & bought DRIED not roasted Nori(green seaweed)? I have been told there is less PO4 in it than flake food. It is used to make sushi & readily available. I clip a sheet to my glass 2X a day for the tangs, they will love it. Watch out how you clip it, if a piece gets loose it can cover some of your overflow & possibly cause a mess.

my .02
Thank you for your input! I'll check the PH again later this afternoon to see what happens after the lights have been on for a while.

When I look at these numbers, I think that the major reason they are less than perfect are;

1. The number of fish in the tank.

2. The amount of feeding I do. (I feed 1 if not 2 sheets of Nori each day, in the evening, I feed a variety of frozen foods. (Brine, Mysis, Plankton, Emerald entree, Marine Cuisine, mega marine algea) Every other night, I also add ON formula 1 & 2 flakes. I still haven't gotten around to making up a batch of Janathan's frozen recipe.

During feeding, I shut off all of the pumps in the tank so I can better guage when to stop and also to limit food being sucked into the over flows.

With this said, any more ideas or suggestions for improvement?
 
If you guys wanna check out my cam, here is the IP http://74.12.12.238:1027/

The password is Admin, the user is admin

I'll have it at this IP for the next couple hours for you to view. Then I will change the password and IP. then go to view video.
You can even control the camera.

Seems to be running a little slow today, not sure why. Hope it works.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10551247#post10551247 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by PJsStuff
so its not working on your end either?
I logged in and got to the control panel, but no video.
 
OK...sorry I was gone so long...just woke up! :)

Obviously we all know the nutrients are way too high to grow corals successfully in this tank at this time and some adjustments need to be made.

Salinity 1.022
Temp 79
NH3 <.25
NO3 25
NO2 .1
PH 8.0
Phos .40
Alk 8.0/2.86
CA 400

As has already been mentioned, salinity is low, but we have heard there was a probelm. The swing itself does more damage than whatever you level out at but the 1.026 is where most reef keepers are using as a goal.

You have to fix whatever allowed the problem to occur.

pH really depends on when you took the test. The important thing is to try and do tests at around the same time of day. I typically do mine whle I am waiting for the food to thaw.

NH3, No3, NO2, & PO4 should all be ZERO. The reason why is that even when your test kits give that result they are still present in the system.

I tested my system water the other day and got zero PO4, then I took a sample of the sand in my fuge, stirred it up, and the PO4 was totally off the Merck chart. The issue you face now, is taht with so much in the water column, you will have a very hard time because if it's in the water column, it has already saturated your rock/sand etc. PO4 binds to these materials, and then you see it in the water column. You can PM for more discussion.

I wouldn't feed ANY more flake food of any kind. Want to know why? Soak some in water and then test the water. Have a beer at the ready because you are going to feel sick when you see the results.

As far as nori goes, I definitely recommend searching out the "dried" versions, but I am totally against using nori sheets. This is a very common practice in the hobby and I really hate to see it. Flame away boys, but you don't actually understand what you are doing to your tanks.

Tangs love those nori sheets and it's fun to watch them tear it up right? And then occassionally some will get away, end up in the overflow, or under a rock, etc. and by the end of the feeding session you have just added more PO4 without the fish getting the benefit of consuming it first. It's not as bad as feeding phyto, but it still is unneccessary IMO.

What I use is Takaokaya Kizami Nori (Dried Seaweed SLICED) and I soak it in various vitamins. It is basically seaweed strips about 2.5" long and the fish suck it up like kids suck up sphaghetti. There is NEVER any wasted. None ever gets to the rocks or the overflow, and all of it is consumed. Unfortunately it's not in every store, but if you can't find it, most Japanese restaurants use it as a garnish so you can try to get a source throgh them as well.

As for RowaPhos, there are identical products being sold for a lot less, like PhosPure from Fosters Smith and PhosLock from Custom Aquatic.
 
jnarowe,

is that nori green? I like your idea, wouldn't it be the same if we cut up the sheets? I looked for Takaokaya Kizami Nori & you pretty much have to buy 12 bottles to equal a $ 25.00 minimum.

No big deal, I just know my tangs only eat the green & I would get stuck with 12 bottles of something they won't eat.

I see the bottles are 1 oz., i know this stuff is light but how big is that bottle?

Thanks

Andy
 
Andy,

The plastic jars are about 3.25 x 3.25 x 6"h and the nori is green. I pay about $2.25/jar at a local high-end grocery store. I go through about one bottle every two weeks, but I am going to step that up a bit as my fish are getting bigger and there is no green algae in my tank for them to eat.

I doubt you could ever replicate these strips by trying to cut the sheets yourself. It would be a rediculous waste of time when you can buy it already done, and that's why it's more expensive per weight than nori sheets.

When Sherman was tank sitting for me, he saw how my fish eat the nori and got some himself.
 
just wondering though. nori is just dried seaweed or a dried macro alage in a way. so why would it produce anything harmful in the tank.
 
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