My new 600 gallon reef
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kau_cinta_ku
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I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but they don't have a good track record of surviving long in reef type temps. just a few months.
I have never heard of a warm water version.
I have never heard of a warm water version.
Mr. Brooks
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Last I heard they're illegal to collect off the coast of California. Most come from Mexico, where the water's a wee bit warmer. At least that's what I heard. Most are hardy and do fine in tropical fish tanks. I've read that they don't do well long term but I've never seen evidence of this. Pretty expensive damsel... I had one for a while but gave it to a friend. He lost his vibrant color in my friends tank. They get HUGE! lol
kau_cinta_ku
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here is the info I have on them.
"Garibaldi Damselfish, Catalina gobies, various species of anemones and octopi, and other cool water species expatriated from our shores to your tanks, garibaldi have a range of thermal adaptability. The smaller the differences between their intended habitat (your system) and their native one the better. The same goes for all the other above named species; unless you have the means (a chiller, very cold home...) to accommodate them, they will suffer from too much/too soon of a temperature change. Anything more than ten degrees Fahrenheit is as a rule of thumb, way out of line. In
our area, at the depths where they are found and collected, we're talking low to upper sixty degrees around summer and about the low to mid fifties in the winter. Figure it out for yourself; are you asking for more metabolic adjustment than your livestock can make? Except for an errant individual being found in a tidepool
these are cooler-water organisms that are often bumped-off from too great a thermal challenge.
"Garibaldi Damselfish, Catalina gobies, various species of anemones and octopi, and other cool water species expatriated from our shores to your tanks, garibaldi have a range of thermal adaptability. The smaller the differences between their intended habitat (your system) and their native one the better. The same goes for all the other above named species; unless you have the means (a chiller, very cold home...) to accommodate them, they will suffer from too much/too soon of a temperature change. Anything more than ten degrees Fahrenheit is as a rule of thumb, way out of line. In
our area, at the depths where they are found and collected, we're talking low to upper sixty degrees around summer and about the low to mid fifties in the winter. Figure it out for yourself; are you asking for more metabolic adjustment than your livestock can make? Except for an errant individual being found in a tidepool
these are cooler-water organisms that are often bumped-off from too great a thermal challenge.
Mr. Brooks
MASVC Member
Speaking from experience, the water off the coast of California's pretty cold. I wear a full body wet suit when I surf. I'm pretty close to Catalina too. I still think you'd have better luck with a Garabaldi than you would with a Catalina Goby. The Damsel seems to be hardier and more adaptable. If it was caught in Mexico I don't think you'd have much to worry about.
Goodwin9
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I was told by some one who recently visited the Omaha Zoo that they had several. Maybe Grant can chime in on these.
The new fish weren't afraid to get in the middle of things last night during feeding. I don't have any way of knowing where these fish were collected from so it will be interesting to see how they do in the tank. I thought my Blue damsels in the 470 were large (3~4"), These two could dwarf them in a short while...just what I need...
Goodwin9
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You've never been attacked by one, have you?? My track record with damsels has been very good, in fact, I don't remember ever loosing one. I still have a half dozen or so from my first salt tank setup and they have gone through most everything that can happen in a tank and are still kicking....
Mr. Brooks
MASVC Member
Haha no. They don't come up to the beach. I went sailing with a friend to some of the islands north of Catalina. Saw a couple blurry orange spots about 10' down. Like I said, they get big lol.
eyesinthedrk
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have any of you with rust issues tried using anodes? i work in the oil field/ marine vessle industry, all rigs and boats weld anodes to the frames, something about the alloy used makes it absorbe the calcification and galvanic corrosion, though im not sure if they wuld cost more than the chain your trying to save, but i would def do it if you needed to protect a steel tank stand/frame,
They have them, but in a cold water tank....so Sam is right.
However I have kept them for over 1 year in a large 20,000 gallon tank in Mississippi with temps of 76 degrees. Just they need to be fed very very well since they will have a higher metabolism since water is warmer than they normally have.
Grant
ReefingBuddha
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very nice! I'm miss have Rics
Here's a link to that nitrate reactor I was talking about. I have read reports about people having Alk and pH problems but I've never had them, maybe its the size of the tank. For that reason I only have sulphur media in my reactor where as most people mix in a calcium source as well.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u257/reefingbuddha/DSC_0004-3.jpg
Here's a link to that nitrate reactor I was talking about. I have read reports about people having Alk and pH problems but I've never had them, maybe its the size of the tank. For that reason I only have sulphur media in my reactor where as most people mix in a calcium source as well.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u257/reefingbuddha/DSC_0004-3.jpg
