my rice experiment

[daveonbass]

well I did try it and it was not positive. Plus people have reported power failures and the stagnant rice turned their sump "black." That can't be good. Not to mention that your theory on how to "test" what's in rice by throwing it into a fairly fragile system (aquariums) is more like mad science than pure science...there are too many vairables, but there are NO test kits to really prove what's gotten released into the tank...so while you "may" have circumstancial evidence at best, you do NOT have proof that rice is any good, especially long term. Lastly if you KNOW that it works, then why do you say that you are still "experimenting" with rice...I thought you knew...

 

[Fishamatank]

so u read the thread, but u didnt see my gha dieing, u didnt see the po4 and no3 numbers going down, and pics of the test kit showing the results?
and then u didnt read bout the others having the same results?

bro, if u think its a bad idea, can u tell me WHY u think its a bad idea?

I think it is a bad idea because you are introducing a large amount of organic material that will decay. Regardless of the fact that there is some organic carbon you are adding much more.
Think of it this way:
Dose vodka (a fairly pure carbon source) and then throw some table scraps in the sump (the rest of the organics in rice). That is obviously an exaggeration but I think you see the point.


In this thread I have seen very biased interpretations of very uncontrolled experiments.

I see someone inexplicably convinced that rice will provide a carbon source and perhaps even other hidden benefits because it is natural.... pretty much from page one.... Look at your signature for starters, it says quite a bit about your thought process here.

Throw a potato in the sump too, that is sure to work. Don't forget to peel it first though. Maybe julienne slicing will help increase surface area and more efficiently fuel bacteria.

It would really be great for you to prove that this works (and make me eat crow) as this would be a nearly free and very easy solution to a problem that causes a lot of aggravation for a lot of people. But.... things are rarely that simple....

 

[kkil4life]

well I did try it and it was not positive. Plus people have reported power failures and the stagnant rice turned their sump "black." That can't be good. Not to mention that your theory on how to "test" what's in rice by throwing it into a fairly fragile system (aquariums) is more like mad science than pure science...there are too many vairables, but there are NO test kits to really prove what's gotten released into the tank...so while you "may" have circumstancial evidence at best, you do NOT have proof that rice is any good, especially long term. Lastly if you KNOW that it works, then why do you say that you are still "experimenting" with rice...I thought you knew...

haha, that was me that had a power failure for a whole day, so I disconnected the sump for over 10 days and no power was going to the sump, so obviously things will go bad, especially if there is some life forms in there

thats said, I'm still experimenting as like u said "I DONT KNOW FOR SURE".
i guess neither do u or anyone else know for sure what is in rice, and thats y the experiment.

 

[kkil4life]

I think it is a bad idea because you are introducing a large amount of organic material that will decay. Regardless of the fact that there is some organic carbon you are adding much more.
Think of it this way:
Dose vodka (a fairly pure carbon source) and then throw some table scraps in the sump (the rest of the organics in rice). That is obviously an exaggeration but I think you see the point.


In this thread I have seen very biased interpretations of very uncontrolled experiments.

I see someone inexplicably convinced that rice will provide a carbon source and perhaps even other hidden benefits because it is natural.... pretty much from page one.... Look at your signature for starters, it says quite a bit about your thought process here.

Throw a potato in the sump too, that is sure to work. Don't forget to peel it first though. Maybe julienne slicing will help increase surface area and more efficiently fuel bacteria.

It would really be great for you to prove that this works (and make me eat crow) as this would be a nearly free and very easy solution to a problem that causes a lot of aggravation for a lot of people. But.... things are rarely that simple....

haha, was a little over excited about the thread of the month and hence the sig, need to change it
lol

rice would be a great source if this 100% works, which I'm not sure it does
look I'm not marketing anything here, I'm just trying to see if there is a gold mine at the end of this tunnel
heck I dont even claim to be the first to try this out

but since there is so much negativity especially from people who cant PROVE anything, I think its best that I just give this a rest and forget it

btw......try being a little positive, u might just see the light

 

[kkil4life]

MODS PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD to avoid any further arguments
whoever wants to use rice will and those that don't wont

 

[daveonbass]

others have tried it before and shown that it doesn't work....so what are you still experimenting for. You freely admit that you are adding something to the tank that you DON'T know what's in it...that just sounds like bad advice. Again, more since others have pretty much proven that it's not useful.

 

[daveonbass]

oh and don't confuse negativity with realism.

 

[bertoni]

I agree that the thread might go on a downward spiral. Closed.