ReefEnabler
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I guess they call them ich magnets for a reason 
good luck sorting it all out.
good luck sorting it all out.
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FishTruck
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12534599#post12534599 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RyanBrucks
I guess they call them ich magnets for a reason
good luck sorting it all out.
What? I thought powder blues were the Ich magnets! :mad2: Guess I learned the hard way. Maybe, I'll just put him in DT one week ever couple months to "bait" the Ich out of the tank.
I feel better now that I don't have to look at the sick fish in the DT. Next step, try not to kill the poor guy in QT.
JRaquatics
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IMO you were better off leaving him in the display tank. Your only stressing him out more. Once you get the tang back in the DT the ich will return as it will be stressed and your tank still harbors the parasite. The spots are the scars as the after results of the ich parasite. You will never get ich out of your tank unless every fish is out of the tank and past several life cycles without a host.
FishTruck
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Yea, I know. What you say is true JR. However... I am not ready to fallow the tank at this point.... but... it drives me nuts to see the purple tang totally covered with cysts every morning, to watch them disappear by 10 a.m.... knowing that he just dropped 10 thousand new parasites into the substrate. The other fish are 100% non affected at this point.
I would rather sacrifice the Purple Tang than put the rest of the tank at risk... so... as far as the display goes... it can't hurt to pull this guy out and will at least slow down the reproduction of this brood of parasites... assuming they remain unable to stick to the other fish.
If other fish show Ich... I will fallow the tank.
If not... I will keep the purple out for six weeks an get him healthy. Then... add water and substrate from the D.T. into Q.T. and see if he gets spots. If not, he goes back into D.T.
FishTruck
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I was starting to get embarassed to post here with all the 600 gallon tanks going up!
Here is a overdue update....
Events:
Fish: Put purple tang into QT due to Ich outbreak. He was the only fish showing and it was annoying me so I caught him and treated him with Copper. Within 48 hours he was spot free and was kept in QT for six weeks. This made me feel much better but admittedly may have been a waste of time without totally fallowing the DT. Anyhow… all other fish remained healthy in DT with no signs of Ich or any other mortality. I added a six line wrasse, powder brown tang, spotted cheek tang and midas blenny to QT for the last three weeks. The powder brown did not eat (dud fish) and expired. The rest were added en masse to the display. At the same time, I added a large Naso tang (quarantined at LFS in copper for three weeks) into display. Despite the distraction and “time outâ€Â, my purple tang immediately reestablished himself as boss and gave the spotted cheek a good thrashing. Also, my big fat fairy wrasse immediately disappeared with the new fish addition and I wonder if he was intimidated by the new 1.5 cm six line wrasse. If so... what a sissy!
Sadly, my copperband, who was doing great for ten weeks, showed sudden signs of respiratory distress and died within 24 hours. Who knows what caused this. He was immune to the initial Ich outbreak so I am a little afraid of something else in the tank. That was my first Copperband (and last?). I am certainly gun shy on fragile fish right now. It sure was nice not having to go after Aptasia for the last few months!
Remaining inhabitants look pretty good. The Naso has a single Ich spot on his nose... so I know there is Ich in the tank... but it seems managed. He is not eating much from the water column, but, seems to be finding good brown algae and nori and his stomach looks full and he is pooping plenty with good fat and muscle on the rest of his body. Now four weeks in captivity. Everyone else is eating and quarrelling happily and things seem pretty good.
The spotted cheek is outsized by the rest of the tangs, but, seems to be asserting himself to eat what he wants. He seems to be growing and heals his shredded fins and body scars quickly. I plan to add three more little six lines to patrol the rocks for pests. Hopefully, added en masse they will not fight much.
Corals.
Some of my SPS faded a bit. Mike from reef specialty was over and we adjusted my photoperiod. Currently, 12 hours with two 400 watt MH at about 80% and 3 hours with all four 400 watt MH, two at 100%, two at 80% by dimmable ballast. Color loss has stopped and one coral (green slimmer) has colored back up. Also, my LPS polyps are nicely extended.
New corals. Blood red Echinopora. Fiji pinapple coral. Dunca frags x 2.
I had an outbreak of a really ugly fuzzy algae that was white, almost like fungus. That is disappearing. I have another species which looks like little flowers. You can see this on the pics below. Not sure what it is… new to me. It does not seem to bother the corals and is kind of nice to look at. I ran phos ban for six weeks, decreased photoperiod and lowered the tank temp from 82 to 78. The really ugly stuff is now gone, but, the phosban killed my macroalgae. I expect it to grow back now that I have discontinued the phosban.
Water test 07/06/08 (after six weeks of no tests).
Ca 430
Alk 9 dKH
Mg 1290
SG 1.024
pH 8.1-8.2 by probe
ORP 290-315 (down a bit since new fish came in)
Nitrate and Phos undetectable
I have not touched the calcium reactor or dosed anything in six weeks. Things seem pretty dialed in.
Equipment upgrade.
I added a plenum to my chiller. This is vented by an eight inch duct and another Panasonic 430 cfm one sone fan. I did this because on really warm days my basement was getting really hot. The negative pressure created in the basement is fed by vents in the walls, ducts for the water heater, and the rest of the house. My CO detectors are not going off and my pilot lights are lit. However, I am prepared to put another eight inch intake vent into the wall if any of those problems arise. So far, things seem to be working.
The only remaining project is to clean up all the loose wires in my equipment room and move the tank lights about 3 inches more toward the center of the tank.
Here is a overdue update....
Events:
Fish: Put purple tang into QT due to Ich outbreak. He was the only fish showing and it was annoying me so I caught him and treated him with Copper. Within 48 hours he was spot free and was kept in QT for six weeks. This made me feel much better but admittedly may have been a waste of time without totally fallowing the DT. Anyhow… all other fish remained healthy in DT with no signs of Ich or any other mortality. I added a six line wrasse, powder brown tang, spotted cheek tang and midas blenny to QT for the last three weeks. The powder brown did not eat (dud fish) and expired. The rest were added en masse to the display. At the same time, I added a large Naso tang (quarantined at LFS in copper for three weeks) into display. Despite the distraction and “time outâ€Â, my purple tang immediately reestablished himself as boss and gave the spotted cheek a good thrashing. Also, my big fat fairy wrasse immediately disappeared with the new fish addition and I wonder if he was intimidated by the new 1.5 cm six line wrasse. If so... what a sissy!
Sadly, my copperband, who was doing great for ten weeks, showed sudden signs of respiratory distress and died within 24 hours. Who knows what caused this. He was immune to the initial Ich outbreak so I am a little afraid of something else in the tank. That was my first Copperband (and last?). I am certainly gun shy on fragile fish right now. It sure was nice not having to go after Aptasia for the last few months!
Remaining inhabitants look pretty good. The Naso has a single Ich spot on his nose... so I know there is Ich in the tank... but it seems managed. He is not eating much from the water column, but, seems to be finding good brown algae and nori and his stomach looks full and he is pooping plenty with good fat and muscle on the rest of his body. Now four weeks in captivity. Everyone else is eating and quarrelling happily and things seem pretty good.
The spotted cheek is outsized by the rest of the tangs, but, seems to be asserting himself to eat what he wants. He seems to be growing and heals his shredded fins and body scars quickly. I plan to add three more little six lines to patrol the rocks for pests. Hopefully, added en masse they will not fight much.
Corals.
Some of my SPS faded a bit. Mike from reef specialty was over and we adjusted my photoperiod. Currently, 12 hours with two 400 watt MH at about 80% and 3 hours with all four 400 watt MH, two at 100%, two at 80% by dimmable ballast. Color loss has stopped and one coral (green slimmer) has colored back up. Also, my LPS polyps are nicely extended.
New corals. Blood red Echinopora. Fiji pinapple coral. Dunca frags x 2.
I had an outbreak of a really ugly fuzzy algae that was white, almost like fungus. That is disappearing. I have another species which looks like little flowers. You can see this on the pics below. Not sure what it is… new to me. It does not seem to bother the corals and is kind of nice to look at. I ran phos ban for six weeks, decreased photoperiod and lowered the tank temp from 82 to 78. The really ugly stuff is now gone, but, the phosban killed my macroalgae. I expect it to grow back now that I have discontinued the phosban.
Water test 07/06/08 (after six weeks of no tests).
Ca 430
Alk 9 dKH
Mg 1290
SG 1.024
pH 8.1-8.2 by probe
ORP 290-315 (down a bit since new fish came in)
Nitrate and Phos undetectable
I have not touched the calcium reactor or dosed anything in six weeks. Things seem pretty dialed in.
Equipment upgrade.
I added a plenum to my chiller. This is vented by an eight inch duct and another Panasonic 430 cfm one sone fan. I did this because on really warm days my basement was getting really hot. The negative pressure created in the basement is fed by vents in the walls, ducts for the water heater, and the rest of the house. My CO detectors are not going off and my pilot lights are lit. However, I am prepared to put another eight inch intake vent into the wall if any of those problems arise. So far, things seem to be working.
The only remaining project is to clean up all the loose wires in my equipment room and move the tank lights about 3 inches more toward the center of the tank.
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FishTruck
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The pics
You can see the spotted cheek trying to give it back to that yellow tang and wrasse. Tough little guy. Hopefully, he can stay healthy with all the beatings he is earning. He may need to go back to hospital tank to heal up if this continues... but for now he seems to be eating plenty, growing, and healing his wounds.
Check out the blood red echinopora above!
The lower levels of the tank are coming along. Will be able to start building the upper levels soon.
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Some SPS from Mike. Also, see the MIdas BLenny. I love this fish! He pops in and out of holes like a Jack in the Box. Hilarious!
Here is the plenum for my chiller. I used some acryic to make this exhaust duct and just bolted it on the existing housing. This is vented outside with 8 inch duct and 430 cfm fan which kicks on and off with the chiller. The goal is to reduce heat in the basement that builds up on hot days.
Other random shots. Full tank shot shows that I need about 50 more corals! Also, the too evenly spaced LPS on the bottom looks like a Coral store. I need a reef decorator to give me some advice on arranging them!
Ahh, pink and blue lobo.
You can see the spotted cheek trying to give it back to that yellow tang and wrasse. Tough little guy. Hopefully, he can stay healthy with all the beatings he is earning. He may need to go back to hospital tank to heal up if this continues... but for now he seems to be eating plenty, growing, and healing his wounds.
Check out the blood red echinopora above!
The lower levels of the tank are coming along. Will be able to start building the upper levels soon.
Some SPS from Mike. Also, see the MIdas BLenny. I love this fish! He pops in and out of holes like a Jack in the Box. Hilarious!
Here is the plenum for my chiller. I used some acryic to make this exhaust duct and just bolted it on the existing housing. This is vented outside with 8 inch duct and 430 cfm fan which kicks on and off with the chiller. The goal is to reduce heat in the basement that builds up on hot days.
Other random shots. Full tank shot shows that I need about 50 more corals! Also, the too evenly spaced LPS on the bottom looks like a Coral store. I need a reef decorator to give me some advice on arranging them!
Ahh, pink and blue lobo.
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ReefEnabler
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looking awesome!
lps colletion coming along very nicely.
the only comment I have on coral placement is that the coolest coral in your tank - the red echino - is placed almost dead center, which looks a bit strange IMO. If it were me I would place it closer to the 'thirds' of the tank. this would go a long way to reducing the symmetry. the red coral draws the eye to the center of the tank, and the somewhat symmetrical sillhouette of the aquascape doesn't offer the next place for the eye to travel as a result.
however this is only apparent in the FTS... all the other placement looks great to me
lps colletion coming along very nicely.
the only comment I have on coral placement is that the coolest coral in your tank - the red echino - is placed almost dead center, which looks a bit strange IMO. If it were me I would place it closer to the 'thirds' of the tank. this would go a long way to reducing the symmetry. the red coral draws the eye to the center of the tank, and the somewhat symmetrical sillhouette of the aquascape doesn't offer the next place for the eye to travel as a result.
however this is only apparent in the FTS... all the other placement looks great to me
FishTruck
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Thanks Ryan. That echino does catch the eye and you are right, now that I think of it, it looks like a "bulls eye" right in the middle like that. I will scootch it over one way or the other adn try to find some other bright pieces to scatter around the other parts of the tank.
I love big corals so I would let them get huge rather then buy "50 more" (i know thats just a random number). If you don't want to look like a coral store with everything about 6 inches and needing fragging you could let them get huge. Like this months TOTM he takes out corals to let choice ones expand. I think it gives for a nicer effect. And i dont know if you've ever seen the "mature italian tanks" thread but those are cool tanks.
On the echino I would put it opposite your clams. I can't see it in person but from the pics the intense blue looks good and the red on the other side maybe between the two pillars would look cool. Then your LPS section would look so spaced evenly because some would be on each side of the show coral.
Everything looks healthy though and thats the goal. Keep up the good work.
On the echino I would put it opposite your clams. I can't see it in person but from the pics the intense blue looks good and the red on the other side maybe between the two pillars would look cool. Then your LPS section would look so spaced evenly because some would be on each side of the show coral.
Everything looks healthy though and thats the goal. Keep up the good work.
FishTruck
Premium Member
Here are some OT pics of what has been keeping me busy this summer... plus some random tank shots. The tank is cruising on autopilot right now. After I get my fill of the back yard... like by this fall or winter... I will get back to stocking this winter. Everything is healthy (fish and new landscaping).
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marcus.breaux
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dude that is an awesome tank!!!
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