My tries at raising maroon clownfish
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mako56
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I took your advice and got some of that. They sell it in smaller quantities now and I got to say it seems to work great. I didn't even feed brine shrimp went right from rots to that and only lost about 3 or 4. Oh ya that heater was Aquatic Gardens from Petco but it must be some bad ones or something but I had two of them quit on me. Putting the tape on them wouldn't cause them to go bad would it?
VWD
Smelly fish
Mike and Everyone else here on this tread, It is really great reading all this from start to end. I am having trouble with H.Riedi Seahorses, I am on my 2nd batch and only have 4 alive on day 8. The original batch was small maybe 40 or so. I have gained so much info from all of you. Jessica gave me the link and thank You Jessica.
Mike Job well done
Mike Job well done
Tape should not make them go bad.
My last batch on Otohime for the first time use (from beginning day 6) is at day 11, most have headbands, and I have never had such an active, good looking bunch. I fed NHBS exactly 3 times.
Other things I did differently with this batch: twice daily siphoning and replacement with fresh saltwater on drip, one more airstone, bringing it to 3 seperate air sources.
It's my personal best, and there are at least 100 larvae/juveniles in there! Let's hope I don't blow it!
My last batch on Otohime for the first time use (from beginning day 6) is at day 11, most have headbands, and I have never had such an active, good looking bunch. I fed NHBS exactly 3 times.
Other things I did differently with this batch: twice daily siphoning and replacement with fresh saltwater on drip, one more airstone, bringing it to 3 seperate air sources.
It's my personal best, and there are at least 100 larvae/juveniles in there! Let's hope I don't blow it!
mako56
Premium Member
Thanks VWD I did do it but everyone here took me by the hand and fixed all the things I was doing wrong. Now that I have done it don't know what to do with them all. Our favorite uncle (Sam) takes way to much of my money so I am really considering making myself a new deduction and start a fish and coral farm maybe even have a guy I know set up a website to sell the stuff. If it all worked it would be so cool but if it didn't I could still of had fun with some of the money they take away from me.
Way to go Kathy !!!!!!!!!! I think I really like the Otohime too thanks Dman. There still has to be around fifty of mine still left they just fly around playing with each other. They are about 3/8" long now. Think I need to try and give them another photo shock session. :lol:
Way to go Kathy !!!!!!!!!! I think I really like the Otohime too thanks Dman. There still has to be around fifty of mine still left they just fly around playing with each other. They are about 3/8" long now. Think I need to try and give them another photo shock session. :lol:
Hey Mike awesome job!,
I'm thinking of giving breeding clowns a go. I'm thinking of having 2 phyto cultures and a rot culture, and bbs when the need arises.
One thing is I'm in NZ and cant get the products you guys have access to like Otohime- will I still be fine?
What would you say were the important elements in your success? And what's your flitration/cleaning schedual on the fry tank? How did you set up your rot cultures ect?
Nice photos - its cool to actually see the fry in detail!!
Its great to see your progress.
, no doubt I'll be asking many a question a wee bit down the line.
I'm thinking of giving breeding clowns a go. I'm thinking of having 2 phyto cultures and a rot culture, and bbs when the need arises.
One thing is I'm in NZ and cant get the products you guys have access to like Otohime- will I still be fine?
What would you say were the important elements in your success? And what's your flitration/cleaning schedual on the fry tank? How did you set up your rot cultures ect?
Nice photos - its cool to actually see the fry in detail!!
Its great to see your progress.
, no doubt I'll be asking many a question a wee bit down the line.Thanks Dman, do you think I'll be ok with out it? I'm not after max numbers - just doing it to see if I can, and to get some experience with aquaculture which is my intended career. (im a poor student haha)
I was thinking that rots and bbs fed on 2 species of phyto would be ok?
Why do you make the swap in foods? Is it just easier, or does the food get too small?
An article you guys might be interested in (specificially the brine shrimp enrichment thing) if you havent already seen it....
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/dec2003/invert.htm
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/jan2004/invert.htm
One cool thing about breeding over here - the prices make it much more worth while than it sounds for you guys. They sell (I think) for around $80NZD each. So I would probably be able to get about 1/2 that.
What size do you guys think would be minimum for a breeding pair of these clowns? Since I'm on a budget I want small but roomy enough for them to be happy.
I was thinking that rots and bbs fed on 2 species of phyto would be ok?
Why do you make the swap in foods? Is it just easier, or does the food get too small?
An article you guys might be interested in (specificially the brine shrimp enrichment thing) if you havent already seen it....
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/dec2003/invert.htm
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/jan2004/invert.htm
One cool thing about breeding over here - the prices make it much more worth while than it sounds for you guys. They sell (I think) for around $80NZD each. So I would probably be able to get about 1/2 that.
What size do you guys think would be minimum for a breeding pair of these clowns? Since I'm on a budget I want small but roomy enough for them to be happy.
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mako56
Premium Member
So you don't have a pair yet? That is the first big hurdle there are people that try for years to get a breeding pair. But I think its in your feeding. I feed my fish a mix of krill, myst shrimp, plankton, and blood worms not saying you need all of this thats just what I feed. I am by no means any kind of expert here but I think I got it figured out enough to make it work.
I didn't mess with phyto but I might someday I used instant algae and L strain rots. I caught the fry at night and put them in a ten gallon tank about half full of filtered tank water mixed with fresh water so the salt content was around 1.018. The next day I put in a bunch of rots and some of the instant alae. I clean the bottom of the tank when it gets dirty. The rots never run out as they must be multiplying faster than the babies can eat them. ( I only had around fifty or so babies). My brine shrimp eggs were to old and didn't hatch so I just fed the Otohime and some other kind of fry food I got from my other food supplier it looks almost like the Otohime. I would say I started them on this at day 8 but I left the rots in there too. To me this seems like one of the hardest things for the babies going from rots to dry food lots of people here just grind up flake food but I haven't tried that yet. I put one of those ammonia badges in the tank and watch it I think I changed about a gallon a day for like a week after day 8. On day 12 I put in a sponge filter and it seems to be taking care of the ammonia now. Its still a big experiment to me so we can all learn together this is just some of what I did.
I didn't mess with phyto but I might someday I used instant algae and L strain rots. I caught the fry at night and put them in a ten gallon tank about half full of filtered tank water mixed with fresh water so the salt content was around 1.018. The next day I put in a bunch of rots and some of the instant alae. I clean the bottom of the tank when it gets dirty. The rots never run out as they must be multiplying faster than the babies can eat them. ( I only had around fifty or so babies). My brine shrimp eggs were to old and didn't hatch so I just fed the Otohime and some other kind of fry food I got from my other food supplier it looks almost like the Otohime. I would say I started them on this at day 8 but I left the rots in there too. To me this seems like one of the hardest things for the babies going from rots to dry food lots of people here just grind up flake food but I haven't tried that yet. I put one of those ammonia badges in the tank and watch it I think I changed about a gallon a day for like a week after day 8. On day 12 I put in a sponge filter and it seems to be taking care of the ammonia now. Its still a big experiment to me so we can all learn together this is just some of what I did.
On the getting a breeding pair front, I met a guy who is keen to sell a pair(of oscars) that are doing the mating dance but havent spawned before. I was thinking a good diet(as you suggest) for those two and perhaps it might happen.
Well, I think I'll go the striaght phyto-rot-bbs-bs-flake route. I'll have quite a lot of time to be able to prepare the food, so it should be ok. I'm just worried that the phyto fed live food wont be enough without a specialised larvae food like the Otohime.
But I suppose I'll find out....
Well, I think I'll go the striaght phyto-rot-bbs-bs-flake route. I'll have quite a lot of time to be able to prepare the food, so it should be ok. I'm just worried that the phyto fed live food wont be enough without a specialised larvae food like the Otohime.
But I suppose I'll find out....
mako56
Premium Member
Well heres an update. Week six or seven they are all different sizes I moved them into a bigger tank and the were 63 of them. Hard little buggers to catch. I have two other batches going also one is just two days old and the other is about three weeks. I put one of the middle group in with the older ones and he seems to be fine there was thinking of just moving them all. Is that a bad idea? Anyways here is a pic, very hard to get one in focus now they just never stop moving and pose for me.:lol:
jnowell
New member
Looking very good Mike, I didn't have much luck combining my Clarks, but maroons may be different (I now have a pair of gold stripe maroons, so I may be picking your brain before long 
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If they are pretty drn close to the same size, and you have a big enough tank, it might work. I just had better luck getting the food to them in smaller areas. Let us know if you try it, i'd like to hear if you have better luck than me, I lost a bunch when I tried it, they fought like crazy.
Jason
)If they are pretty drn close to the same size, and you have a big enough tank, it might work. I just had better luck getting the food to them in smaller areas. Let us know if you try it, i'd like to hear if you have better luck than me, I lost a bunch when I tried it, they fought like crazy.
Jason
Peter Schmiedel
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Mike,
who many of yours are with irregular bands as the one on the pic? Reason why I am asking is that mine do show a lot of missbarring also I cant see a flaw on the parents.
who many of yours are with irregular bands as the one on the pic? Reason why I am asking is that mine do show a lot of missbarring also I cant see a flaw on the parents.
mako56
Premium Member
Hey Pete, more of them are banded like that than have bands all the way around I am not sure what that means but I did read somewhere here that it has to do with stresses they put up with when they are getting the strips. My ma fish is miss banded but the old man's stripes look pretty good.
