My tries at raising maroon clownfish
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DebsSisterFlo
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ediaz your avatar pic is gorgeous, just wanted to say...
Mike, I sure hope I see some babies this weekend? Now that you have that new toy you really have no use for that macro lense, so I'll just take that with me, ok? No, really!!! haha!!
Mike, I sure hope I see some babies this weekend? Now that you have that new toy you really have no use for that macro lense, so I'll just take that with me, ok? No, really!!! haha!!
I bleach 1 ml of bleach per gallon of saltwater.
I use chloramX when I have an ammonia problem.
I use biosafe or biosomething for the bleach thing. 1 or 2 ml per gallon. I always test for chlorine after dechlorinating until I am sure I am dechlorinating enough. Pet stores have chlorine test strips--expensive but easy.
Sodium Thiosulphate also works well for dechlorinating, and probably is cheapest.
I got the Biosafe stuff for free at the last aquarium conference; ain't nothing cheaper than free. conference was not, however, free.
I use chloramX when I have an ammonia problem.
I use biosafe or biosomething for the bleach thing. 1 or 2 ml per gallon. I always test for chlorine after dechlorinating until I am sure I am dechlorinating enough. Pet stores have chlorine test strips--expensive but easy.
Sodium Thiosulphate also works well for dechlorinating, and probably is cheapest.
I got the Biosafe stuff for free at the last aquarium conference; ain't nothing cheaper than free. conference was not, however, free.
mako56
Premium Member
Now say when I harvest a one gallon container (notice not a jug) I dump half of it into the strainer then what? Dump the rest in a clean container being careful not to dump the junk from the bottom and then just toss the water from the bottom and the water I strained out in the toilet or something? I am scared of the sacrifice coming from the bottom for now but I guess after it gets going what's a few rots getting flushed. I think the babies are probably hatching as I am sitting at work on break. So I have plenty of time to make more rots.
Daily harvest:
I use a plastic coffee filter to screen out the big junk. I set this on top of the rot filter, and pour off half of the culture through the 2 filters. Rinse clean the coffee filter, letting the junk go down the drain, with tap water, and put away. Then I add back the same volume of warm fresh saltwater 20-25ppt that I previously took out of the culture. I then stick the filter with the rots on it into a container of 1/2 the culture's daily ration of rotifer diet and saltwater, in a volume just enough to cover the rotifers on the filter. Let this sit for 20-30 minutes to enrich them. Then pull up the filter and feed the rots to the larvae or the reef. The leftover rotifer diet from the enrichment container can be poured into the rot tank to feed the culture of rots. Rinse all containers and filters with tap water and air dry. About every other day I dissolve a tiny pinch (1/10 teaspoon) of chloramX in rotifer water and add to the culture. Air as usual.
Every 3 days or so:
Pour the whole culture through the double filter discarding the water and what collects on the coffee filter. Clean the culturing vessell with warm tap water and a piece of blue filter fluff, or get a fresh container. Rinse half or all of the collected rots back off the filter and put into the clean culturing container with fresh saltwater, and add food. Air as usual. If feeding larvae, enrich the rots reserved for this purpose and use the leftover enrichment to feed the culture as above.
HTH
Kathy
I use a plastic coffee filter to screen out the big junk. I set this on top of the rot filter, and pour off half of the culture through the 2 filters. Rinse clean the coffee filter, letting the junk go down the drain, with tap water, and put away. Then I add back the same volume of warm fresh saltwater 20-25ppt that I previously took out of the culture. I then stick the filter with the rots on it into a container of 1/2 the culture's daily ration of rotifer diet and saltwater, in a volume just enough to cover the rotifers on the filter. Let this sit for 20-30 minutes to enrich them. Then pull up the filter and feed the rots to the larvae or the reef. The leftover rotifer diet from the enrichment container can be poured into the rot tank to feed the culture of rots. Rinse all containers and filters with tap water and air dry. About every other day I dissolve a tiny pinch (1/10 teaspoon) of chloramX in rotifer water and add to the culture. Air as usual.
Every 3 days or so:
Pour the whole culture through the double filter discarding the water and what collects on the coffee filter. Clean the culturing vessell with warm tap water and a piece of blue filter fluff, or get a fresh container. Rinse half or all of the collected rots back off the filter and put into the clean culturing container with fresh saltwater, and add food. Air as usual. If feeding larvae, enrich the rots reserved for this purpose and use the leftover enrichment to feed the culture as above.
HTH
Kathy
Peter Schmiedel
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Mike,
may I high jack this thread as I am trying the same and we can combine our findings? I also have the yellow band version.
Frist try several weeks ago I was cought by surprise and did not have sufficient rots. Anway from the 20 test larve 2 made it until day 7. At that time I also had no premium brine so mal nutrition was an issue.
Next harvest was done last night and fry has been added into green water and selco enrichted rots have been added in fair amounts. Will be home in 2 hrs and can see what the current status is.
may I high jack this thread as I am trying the same and we can combine our findings? I also have the yellow band version.
Frist try several weeks ago I was cought by surprise and did not have sufficient rots. Anway from the 20 test larve 2 made it until day 7. At that time I also had no premium brine so mal nutrition was an issue.
Next harvest was done last night and fry has been added into green water and selco enrichted rots have been added in fair amounts. Will be home in 2 hrs and can see what the current status is.
mako56
Premium Member
Cool Peter. I sure can use the help and I guess I should really see if the brine shrimp eggs I have will still hatch. They are kind of old. That's as far as I ever made it too but I never had any rots before I had eggs laid yesterday so maybe early next week we will be going for it again. Glad you are aboard.
Peter Schmiedel
New member
Update from today, two surprises yesterday:
1. 20 % of the fry was dead 8??) but the rest is doining fine and eating. I assume this was the ones I ahd to sukc of with a hoss as the light ing in the larve trapp was not perfect.
2. Obviously only 50 % of the eggs hatched the night before, so this morning I could harvest the rest in my trapp
Rots and special brine (very small, with a lot of HUE - and an incredible price 50 gr 40 $) are ready for usage. in the afternoon I will try to feed the brine the first time.
1. 20 % of the fry was dead 8??) but the rest is doining fine and eating. I assume this was the ones I ahd to sukc of with a hoss as the light ing in the larve trapp was not perfect.
2. Obviously only 50 % of the eggs hatched the night before, so this morning I could harvest the rest in my trapp
Rots and special brine (very small, with a lot of HUE - and an incredible price 50 gr 40 $) are ready for usage. in the afternoon I will try to feed the brine the first time.
Peter Schmiedel
New member
The second hatching batch has been placed in a different tank. Makes it more difficult to feed sufficient but on the other hand decreases risk. And if I have one thing enough then it is tanks 
I must built a device to filter off the BBS and rots which where not eaten before they loose all their nutritients. Thats the task for today.
As I am 40+ and have glasses it is hard to see if the babies have eaten food. Fry is shwimming activly and looks fine so far. But at day 2 this is not yet a challenge completed.
Found some shrimp larvae in batch one - must be L. ambonensis. From what I heard this shrimp is rather difficult to raise. Lwurdemani is a piece of cake and I am waiting that my last batch is setteling today is day 18 so only a few more to go.
I must built a device to filter off the BBS and rots which where not eaten before they loose all their nutritients. Thats the task for today.
As I am 40+ and have glasses it is hard to see if the babies have eaten food. Fry is shwimming activly and looks fine so far. But at day 2 this is not yet a challenge completed.
Found some shrimp larvae in batch one - must be L. ambonensis. From what I heard this shrimp is rather difficult to raise. Lwurdemani is a piece of cake and I am waiting that my last batch is setteling today is day 18 so only a few more to go.
Peter Schmiedel
New member
Day 3 for batch one and the first time I can see round filled bellies Pays off to use the f***ing expensive brine eggs. Lesson learned start brine not before day 3. Still some of the fry is really small and skiny and does not look healthy to me.
Batch 2 is obviously feeding on the rots. Observations with the magnifing glass show hunting attempts but I am uncertain if they really do feed.
Pays off to use the f***ing expensive brine eggs. Lesson learned start brine not before day 3. Still some of the fry is really small and skiny and does not look healthy to me. Batch 2 is obviously feeding on the rots. Observations with the magnifing glass show hunting attempts but I am uncertain if they really do feed.
Dman
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I've had fairly decent success with this:
1. Drop the salinity of the hatch tank to 1.016-1.018.
2. Put airstones in all four corners on a low, slow stream of air. (or use a round tank)
3. Don't put rotifers in the hatch tank until the morning/day after they've hatched.
Biggest diffference or the one that's made the biggest impact after about day 7 or 8 is my second food. I was using freeze dried CE but I had almost complete mortalities with it, now I'm using Otohime Size A with what I think is close to zero food related mortalities.
But once you get 300-500 cruising around in a 10 gallon tank they do a pretty good job of kick the crajp out of each other
Dman
1. Drop the salinity of the hatch tank to 1.016-1.018.
2. Put airstones in all four corners on a low, slow stream of air. (or use a round tank)
3. Don't put rotifers in the hatch tank until the morning/day after they've hatched.
Biggest diffference or the one that's made the biggest impact after about day 7 or 8 is my second food. I was using freeze dried CE but I had almost complete mortalities with it, now I'm using Otohime Size A with what I think is close to zero food related mortalities.
But once you get 300-500 cruising around in a 10 gallon tank they do a pretty good job of kick the crajp out of each other
Dman
