My Ultimate Multi Mantis System(s)

[Kharn]

Yeah that would be really great. I definitely understand the logistical issues with it though.

There are just 2 primary issues.
#1 - Time - From me to 'you', like 1 week is NOT going to cut it cause the animal would very likely be dead...

#2 - Cost - For 'you' mostly, no one is going to pay hundreds of $$$ in costs to get an animal that might arrive dead...

Oh I can only imagine the mountains of crap that you would have to wade through

A lot of the red tape can be simply solved by throwing money at it thankfully but there are also certain laws that I can't just throw money at too fix...

 

[Martini5788]

Yeah very good points. I don't think anyone can justify that kind of cost

 

[Kharn]

Yeah very good points. I don't think anyone can justify that kind of cost

But I am determined to see people happy and get what they want cause that will make me happy.

I'd love to answer emails etc. about very doubtful people asking if they can get say an O.japonicus for example and me just say yeah no problem I got X amount here you can have one at your door in X day(s).

I have a dream of seeing people on all corners of the globe from the fridged frozen barren lands to the hot sweltering jungle areas ALL being able to order and receive live healthy stomatopods they only ever dreamed of owning let alone seeing in their lifetime.

Then once its all set in stone and running and a success, I can die, happily .

 

[Martini5788]

Hahaha that is a pretty big dream. I hope you figure it out!

 

[Kharn]

Hahaha that is a pretty big dream. I hope you figure it out!

I intend to!

 

[nmotz]

I'd love to answer emails etc. about very doubtful people asking if they can get say an O.japonicus for example and me just say yeah no problem I got X amount here you can have one at your door in X day(s).

I have a dream of seeing people on all corners of the globe from the fridged frozen barren lands to the hot sweltering jungle areas ALL being able to order and receive live healthy stomatopods they only ever dreamed of owning let alone seeing in their lifetime.

That's a lovely idea. I was just thinking the other day about how many species on Roy's list will only ever be rarely encountered by hobbyists who want them. In fact, I was just asking various retailers the other day about O. Japonicus. I would like one more than any other stomatopod and nobody has regular access to them. It's a shame, but that's how it is right now. But O. Japonicus is not the only one. I saw a dive video the other day where some lucky diver had an encounter with an O. Cultrifer. Very cool species. Would love to have one! Best of luck in achieving your dream. And for the record, I'd pay out the wazoo for an O. Japonicus! I'd save/sell off whatever to raise the money!

 

[EI Gringo]

I ordered an o.japonicus, I got a Japanese ghost shrimp -_-

 

[Martini5788]

Wow I just looked those up, and they are awesome(japonicus). I agree, I would too

 

[Kharn]

There are many species not on Roy's List that I am positive if people knew about they would like to obtain one ....

I know of a bright orange & blue medium sized spearer that I'm sure if people knew about would love to get there hands on it.

People crave what they don't have, they never crave over what they have or can get easily.

There is over 600 known species of Mantis and only a few are on Roy's List ....

Me personally, these days, I am only in it for individual specimens over 5inchs the larger individuals/species out there are much easier to film/photograph and are simply more rewarding in those films & photographs no more small smashers/spearers for me...

Having said that I won't turn another person down should they want something small, if/when the time comes...

 

[Calappidae]

I thought there were 500 known species? Did we find more this year?

 

[Martini5788]

I thought there were 500 known species? Did we find more this year?

ThTs what I thought too. I read in another post from last year that they are actually related to praying mantis, well the praying mantis evolved from stomatopods, curious as to whether that is true.

 

[Martini5788]

Which species is this? Have you ever had
One of these kharn?

 

[Calappidae]

IIIII..... don't believe a crustacea evolved from an insect. There is 0 relation besides being animals and arthropods (spiders have just as much relation). The name is just a reference to their appearence, which of course was made by some random biologist or someone and became the common name. (Or Roy, idk... now I'm intriuged to learn about name origin.)


Wonders what was going on in that guy's mind when he decided to call sexy shrimp, sexy shrimp..

EDIT: That's a Hemisquilla californiensis, they're considered one of the if not the hardest to keep alive stomatopods.
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/arthro...ca/royslist/species.php?name=h_californiensis

I'd actually like to learn more about that species in captivity.. I really wonder why some specimens have such difficulty in captivity when we can almost replicate their natural environment. They're not diet restrictive like other better left in the wild animals in the hobby, (fromia stars, two spot goby)

Kharn have you ever had a squillia sp.?

 

[EI Gringo]

What giant spearer were you referring to Kharn? A species I am unfamiliar with by the sounds of it.

 

[Kharn]

Which species is this? Have you ever had
One of these kharn?

H.californiensis.

2 reasons I won't be dealing with them.

#1 - Not in my location
#2 - They will die, their a real tough species to care for long term, shell rot magnets.

 

[Kharn]

Kharn have you ever had a squillia sp.?

Yes, 7 and all 7 died.

I will also not deal with any of the squillids that I deem more problem then worth, many require mud substrates due to being found within muddy environments and they need it because their undersides are very delicate.

 

[Kharn]

What giant spearer were you referring to Kharn? A species I am unfamiliar with by the sounds of it.

Most of the GIANT spearers I will be dealing with are within the LYSIOSQUILLOIDEA group, there is a good half dozen unique individuals within.

It ain't just L.macs

 

[Martini5788]

IIIII..... don't believe a crustacea evolved from an insect. There is 0 relation besides being animals and arthropods (spiders have just as much relation). The name is just a reference to their appearence, which of course was made by some random biologist or someone and became the common name. (Or Roy, idk... now I'm intriuged to learn about name origin.)





Wonders what was going on in that guy's mind when he decided to call sexy shrimp, sexy shrimp..



EDIT: That's a Hemisquilla californiensis, they're considered one of the if not the hardest to keep alive stomatopods.

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/arthro...ca/royslist/species.php?name=h_californiensis



I'd actually like to learn more about that species in captivity.. I really wonder why some specimens have such difficulty in captivity when we can almost replicate their natural environment. They're not diet restrictive like other better left in the wild animals in the hobby, (fromia stars, two spot goby)



Kharn have you ever had a squillia sp.?

I read that it was
Actually the
Other way around, insect from
Crustacea. Hence why asked about it as to the accuracy

 

[Kharn]

I thought it was fairly known that life evolved from the sea....thus the crustacean before the 'insect'....things in the sea moved and lived long before things upon land...

 

[Martini5788]

I thought it was fairly known that life evolved from the sea....thus the crustacean before the 'insect'....things in the sea moved and lived long before things upon land...

Yeah that's what I was saying