N/P reducing pellets (solid vodka dosing)

[tntneon]

Is the effluent best located near a skimmer, so that the bacteria gets taken up as soon as possible or is it best located near the intake of your return pump so that the bacteria can feed the corals?


Thanks
Kevin

A little late maybe but beter late then never .
I asked this on Jp `s original topic on local forum , and someboby of coralsience replyed to me that there`s enough bacteria and food with this methode that bypassing skimmer (with pellet reactor outlet) could result in Ph drops at night as ever greather growing bacterial mass are up taking o2 and expelling co2.
And there for the pellets are best use with water direktly comming from display and that oulet comes in the skimmer area .

greetingzz tntneon

 

[Frogmanx82]

Hmm.... I have an intank tunze nano skimmer. Could I load the pellets into the base of the skimmer?

 

[kaskiles]

Wouldn't it be neat if the biopellets were light enough to fluidize within a non-recirculating skimmer chamber, yet heavy enough to not be skimmed out into the collection cup? Might work best in an air powered skimmer... Oh, I guess they would blow out the outlet anyway.

 

[chaderic26]

They were talking about these pellets at the CRASE in Oklahoma last week. It was cool to hear about something I was already following.

In the loop I am.

 

[buddah001]

So how do we get these?

 

[Frogmanx82]

Will pods or bristleworms eat the biopellets?

 

[Frogmanx82]

I just got finished talking with the owner of D. van Houten. Mr. Houten himself. A really great guy by the way.

http://www.dvh-import.com/Site2/english/Contact.html

Okay so for ordering, you can just send him money through info@dvh-import.com he said.

So I ordered a liter by going to the site and using paypal to send payment to the email address after exchanging a few emails.

Question, will pods or bristleworms eat the biopellets?

 

[tatuvaaj]

Question, will pods or bristleworms eat the biopellets?

I don't think so. If you somehow manage to introduce them into the tank some deposit feeders like sea cucumbers would love to eat the bacteria growing on the pellets but my guess is that the pellets themselves would come out of the animal unharmed

 

[tatuvaaj]

Seems like the placement of the pellets inside the sump is important: yesterday I moved them in front of the skimmer (as recommended by the manufacturer) and noticed 0.2 higher pH (7.8 -> 8.0) in the morning.

Initially I wasn't concerned about this because of the very high water exchange rate between the tank and the sump but it really seems to matter!

 

[buddah001]

So I ordered a liter by going to the site and using paypal to send payment to the email address after exchanging a few emails.

How much was liter delivered?

 

[Frogmanx82]

So I ordered a liter by going to the site and using paypal to send payment to the email address after exchanging a few emails.

How much was liter delivered?

$125

 

[chaderic26]

$125

Did you get a kiss first?

 

[Frogmanx82]

They better be some darn good pellets or I got something other than a kiss.

 

[AquariumSpecialty]

Please vist our Sponsor forum for more info on NP Biopellets.

Thank you,

 

[Frogmanx82]

Well I ordered from dvh but Aquarium Specialty now has them.
http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=103_777

At 99 a liter plus shipping, I maybe could have saved a couple bucks, not much.

We really need to get some data on the performance of these pellets, where they can be used, and should the bacteria be filtered out or does it depend on whether you have filter feeders in the tank.

 

[eliashickman]

So how do we get these?

Check my post a few up. I went ahead and sent money, via PayPal, to the info@dvh-import.com.
I used Skype to call him to find out about shipping and handling. I don't know what that is for the States but I'm sure some of these other guys could tell you. I'm sure it's either 25 euros or some standard flat rate.

BTW, I just ordered mine. I can't wait till the come. :bounce1:

 

[tatuvaaj]

Very nice that we have more people trying this product out, be sure to report your findings here :thumbsup:

Some reported observations:
- Improved water clarity (CDOM reduction?)
- Lower nitrate (as expected)
- No effect on phosphates (doesn't make sense... do the pellets contain phosphorous? Bacteria promoted by this media has unusually high N ratio? Or is it simply because of low N ratio in water column?)
- Very high bacterial biomass production (expected)
- Lower tank pH (expected, depends on nutrient levels)
- Works best in fluidizing reactor (?)

 

[tatuvaaj]

Double

 

[Frogmanx82]

Very nice that we have more people trying this product out, be sure to report your findings here :thumbsup:

Some reported observations:
- Improved water clarity (CDOM reduction?)
- Lower nitrate (as expected)
- No effect on phosphates (doesn't make sense... do the pellets contain phosphorous? Bacteria promoted by this media has unusually high N ratio? Or is it simply because of low N ratio in water column?)
- Very high bacterial biomass production (expected)
- Lower tank pH (expected, depends on nutrient levels)
- Works best in fluidizing reactor (?)

I was really hoping for a phosphate reduction. Are we sure about the effects or non effects on phosphate. How good is the data?

 

[NaClH2Opgh]

I am curious. When this was first pitched, they did so as an alternative to carbon dosing. Carbon dosing does indeed reduce phosphates along with Nitrates. In my experience with dosing vodka the phosphates just take longer to start coming down. I had zero Nitrates for a couple months but still had phosphate issues. The phosphates did eventually come down though. If this has no effect on phosphates then this is a very expensive Nitrate only remover.