N/P reducing pellets (solid vodka dosing)

[drummereef]

BTW where does the SWC stands for ?

Saltwater Connection... just a guess.

http://saltwaterconnection.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=144

 

[daveonbass]

yup saltwaterconnection.com

they claim that they have the most "pure" product available which is now shared by two other companies, NP being one of them. It's all gotten from the same american supplier/manufacturer.

 

[pecan2phat]

yup saltwaterconnection.com

they claim that they have the most "pure" product available which is now shared by two other companies, NP being one of them. It's all gotten from the same american supplier/manufacturer.

Wow,
Wish I saw this before diving in. SWC pellets look a lot smaller then the NP-X pellets and also calls for 25% less ml of pellets for amount of water being treated.

 

[Jimbo7]

So the common consensus on these is to run much less then stated at first, keep them to a low tumble, and aerate sufficiently? Most of the stuff about bacteria blooms and nuisance problems seems to be attributed to using too much too fast, correct?

Would I be alright running a small amount of just the pellets in a Two Little Fishes Phosban 150? Tanks is SPS dominated, with around 40 gallons total water volume.

 

[Sohal Tang Tim]

TLF phosban 150

TLF phosban 150

There are a ton of people using the phosban 150 with the NP pellets.
My friend has 2 of them on his 150 reef and it is working perfect.
However you must modify the reactor by cutting out and installing
the special mesh over the red plates as the holes in the red plates are
too big.

Make sure the pellets are tumbling and non are staying still etc.


Good luck,

Remember the pellets will tend to clump up ifyou do not have enough flow
to them.....


Tim

 

[SimonSKL]

I don't know if anyone has noticed the volume of NPX BPs used in Kryzysztof Tryc's reef tank which was selected as Aug TOTM. His tank is about 200g and the volume of BPs that he used seemed to be less than 1000ml from the picture. It is hard to see how the BPs tumble but it does not look to be vigorous. In his write-up he said the flow thru the BP reactor is about 1200l/h (~300gph).

I am using about 1000ml BPs for my 100g tank with a flow of about 300gph. May be I am using too much of the biopellets.


I am amazed at how simple he keeps his system running and yet with such a beautiful tank!

 

[bluereefs]

I can get bacterial bloom in 150 g with my diy reactor with 300 ml bio pellets (if I start with 300 ml from the begining) . Now I have 500 ml in 150 g aquarium and today they really start to produce to much bacteria so I considering remove some of them. First I will check nitrate today to see if they drop close to 0, if they are 0 or close to 0 and to prevent to fast removal of organic/nutrients I will remove some of bio pellets. My canary acropora/stylophora last 24 hours have less PE, for me that is sign of to much bacteria or too much/to fast nutrients removing.

I dont think Lunar have 1200 flow thru reactor, he have small pump, maxi jet 1200 probably, not to strong pump, so at the outlet his flow must be much slower, I using eheim 1200 lit/hour and hagen powerhead 404 with 1400 lit/hour (declared on pumps) but my flow measured at the reactor outlet are aprox 650 lit/hour. Can not be sure though, if he can measure outlet and post here then we will know his exact flow thru.

 

[SimonSKL]

I can get bacterial bloom in 150 g with my diy reactor with 300 ml bio pellets (if I start with 300 ml from the begining) . Now I have 500 ml in 150 g aquarium and today they really start to produce to much bacteria so I considering remove some of them. First I will check nitrate today to see if they drop close to 0, if they are 0 or close to 0 and to prevent to fast removal of organic/nutrients I will remove some of bio pellets. My canary acropora/stylophora last 24 hours have less PE, for me that is sign of to much bacteria or too much/to fast nutrients removing.

I dont think Lunar have 1200 flow thru reactor, he have small pump, maxi jet 1200 probably, not to strong pump, so at the outlet his flow must be much slower, I using eheim 1200 lit/hour and hagen powerhead 404 with 1400 lit/hour (declared on pumps) but my flow measured at the reactor outlet are aprox 650 lit/hour. Can not be sure though, if he can measure outlet and post here then we will know his exact flow thru.

One thing I noticed is that his effluent hose from the BP reactor is much larger than his inlet diameter. I think this would improve the flow with less restriction. Most reactors that we use have same diameter for inlet and outlet.

 

[bluereefs]

One thing I noticed is that his effluent hose from the BP reactor is much larger than his inlet diameter. I think this would improve the flow with less restriction. Most reactors that we use have same diameter for inlet and outlet.

I have that to in my diy reactor, inlet are smaller in diameter then efluent/outlet from reactor.

 

[trunks1622]

I tested my phosphate and nitrate again last night and both were almost undetectable. My corals seems to be getting better now. The duncans and bubble coral are starting to open up now. I started feeding frozen food like suggested and this looks like is working. Also, i notice that my TLF 150 reactor has a slow tumble going through the biopellets. I wonder if I should use a better pump for more flow. The instructions I got says that the pellets should be aggresively tumbling. I currently have a maxijet 900 connected to it.

 

[daveonbass]

try a maxjet 1200. Barring that you need to get a much bigger pump. But that should do.

 

[lolgranny]

Do i need a reactor for these? Or can i use a sock and put it over my drain pipe entering the sump? Reason i ask is because i have no space for anything in my sump other them getting something like a reactor that can be outside of the stand with its pump /return line ran to it.

TY

 

[GUILLO1]

Do i need a reactor for these? Or can i use a sock and put it over my drain pipe entering the sump? Reason i ask is because i have no space for anything in my sump other them getting something like a reactor that can be outside of the stand with its pump /return line ran to it.

TY

yea you need to use a reactor

 

[bluereefs]

Rewiew of my third attempt with bp on my main 150 g, with loot of experiment and testing last 7 +months with bp.

This time I start slowly with very small amount of bp,100 ml, what was barelly visible inside the reactor (diy reactor) next 4-5 week I aded 2 x 100 ml and 1 x 200 ml, now is 500 ml in reactor. First 4-5 week nitrate drop was not measured, nitrate was 50 mg/lit and 50 mg/lit was last time measured 22.08.2010, 9 days ago, then bp start to kick, here is the nitrate measure last days:
22.08.2010 - 50 mg/lit
25.08.2010 - 5-10 mg/lit
27.08.2010 - 5 mg/lit
30.08.2010 - 5 mg/lit
31.08.2010 - 2,5 mg/lit

I do not get bacterial bloom this time (what I get every time in the past when I start with bigger quantity) corals are ok, one acropora and stylophora do not have good PE, probably due to really kicking bp today (my skimmer was working all morning like when I have bacterial bloom, like foam machine), so there is a chance that I would need to remove some bp due to too much bacteria production, or cut the flow but my flow is already low so that was not so simple to due due to posible hidrogen sulfid danger. No water changes are performed.

 

[lolgranny]

yea you need to use a reactor

Ty sir, ive been lookin into them but ill need to get a reactor that sits out of the sump then. Any suggestions for one that would be good for this that is able to sit outside of the sump / run a line into with a pump..ect?

 

[SimonSKL]

Ty sir, ive been lookin into them but ill need to get a reactor that sits out of the sump then. Any suggestions for one that would be good for this that is able to sit outside of the sump / run a line into with a pump..ect?

NextReef makes a nice one specially for the pellets with 5/8" inlet and outlet. Check this out.
http://nextreef.com/solidreactors.html

 

[bertoni]

For a 40g breeder, a PhosBan reactor or the like would be fine, I think. BRS has some reactors, too.

 

[tahiriqbal]

I am thinking about giving NP biopellets a go on my 250g system. I have MM in my sump with lots and lots cheato growing and last chamber is also hosting Deltec FR509 phosphate reactor. The skimmer in use is Deletc AP902 with Ehiem 5000lph as supply pump (bit of over kill) and I was thinking about rigging my old Deletc FR616 reactor filled with 500ml NP biopellets.

Ideally I want to supply water to the FR 616 first and then feed straight in to the skimmer, do you think it would be a wise idea as I don't really want to employ another supply pump just for FR616 to stir NP biopellets since Ehiem should be good enough for both skimmer and FR616 together? By the way latest test via Salifert NO3test kit gave me figures around 6ppm, also do you think I should leave the my MM bed in my sump and once NO3 drop to zero then remove FR509 which is acting as phosphate remover and costing me lot of money to run and maintain.

 

[T5FL]

NextReef makes a nice one specially for the pellets with 5/8" inlet and outlet. Check this out.
http://nextreef.com/solidreactors.html

I bought this reactor for my BP's, great reactor, well made, worth the money.

 

[DJREEF]

yea you need to use a reactor

Not so fast. I'm using a pond bag with 1000ml mixed Vertex and Ecobak in it with just fine results in my FOWLR setup. Tested the NO3 tonight and it's less than 5ppm, down from 80ppm 2 months ago. I suspect the next time I test in a few weeks it'll be undetectable.

DJ