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johno4

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Ok, I will try to keep this as short as possible so youre not reading forever. I am seeing little to no growth from corals in my tank. The question is why?

Tank details: 30 gallon drilled, 30g sump (half full), 20 gallon fuge. I am very good at doing my weekly 5g water changes.

Corals: largish pink leather, green nepthia, blasto, hammer, zoas, candy, and recently a RBTA. Almost everything has been in the tank for over 1 year and is exactly the same size as when I added them. Zoas have spread very little, blasto never opens fully, Nephia stays shriveled half the day, hammer is the same, no new heads. The RBTA was added 2 weeks ago and has shrunk down in size and is slowly moving from its rock to a spot under the overflow. The only coral that opens regularly is the leather, although little to no grow for that as well. I do not have a ton of coralline either. I will add pics when I can.

Parameters seem really good:

dkh 9
cal. 430ppm
nitrate 0ppm
phosphate 0ppm
pH 8.3

These were verified at CF.

I thought it was do to a lack of light. I was running an Odyssea 4 bulb HOt5 fixture with geisseman bulbs. This fixture has a single crappy reflector, I contemplated getting a new/better fixture. What I ended up doing was taking the fixture apart and making a retro fit light using the same ballasts, new bulbs and new single reflectors that I picked up at CF. The light output seems much better however no way to know without checking PAR which I don't have a meter to do that. I have talked with almost every employee at both CF and Reef shoppe, all seem to think I have more than enough light for the corals I have. Tom at the Reef shoppe thinks it could be chemical inhibitors being put off by one of the corals. He recommended that I try doing one really large water change and it would do the trick. The last two weeks I have done 10g water changes and have seen no difference. I do run carbon. It is in a bag in a small fluval 1 internal filter in my sump. I am really stumped, this is an inwall tank and I would really like to make it look good. So would my wife, who is beginning to lose confidence in my tank keeping abilities. :worried:

All and any of your thoughts and/or input is greatly appreciated.

John
 
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This is the Rita two days after I added it

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I also should mention that the Duncan and the orange zoos (under pink leather in pic) were the first corals added, Nov 2014. The Duncan started as 4 heads and quickly grew to what you see. The zoos started as 3 heads and quickly went to 12. When I added more corals, the growth stopped.
 
two clowns, blue damsel and a coral beauty. There is also an emerald crab, coral banded, and peppermint shrimp.

Mainly NLS pellets and occasionally frozen rotifer and Mysis.
 
How much, how often, what do you feed? What is your temperature at. How long do you run the lights? Live rock in the sump? What is in the fuge?
 
That's pretty odd... your tank looks very sterile for being a year old. Do you ever see any algae growth? Seems like maybe it is a nutrient starved environment.
 
usually feed once or twice a day, food mentioned above

Temp, 79F

2 blue plus bulbs on for 12 hours, lagoon blue and aquablue coral on for 8 hours.

half the fuge has around 20lbs of rock with micro growing on it, the other half has a cheato ball rolling with a large powerhead on it.
 
That's pretty odd... your tank looks very sterile for being a year old. Do you ever see any algae growth? Seems like maybe it is a nutrient starved environment.

Its really odd. Fuge is full of algae, maybe out competing the tank for nutrients? Fuge is lit 23 hours
 
I think your fuge is probably starving your dt, so I would start there. Besides you are missing out on the benefit of lower ph swings on your current schedule
 
Btw- Caloupera needs to be run 24/7 to not go sexual- so make sure you don't have any. Cheato needs at least a 6 hour break from light to function properly- or that is what I have been told- I don't run a fuge
 
I started running the fuge longer around 5 months ago, it used to get 4 hours of dark in the middle of the display light schedule but I was seeing cyano in the display so I upped the lighting in the fuge. It went away, maybe I could give the fuge more dark time again.

I should also mention that I do not have a RODI unit and am using tap water, which is the main reason I went with such a large fuge. There is a water softener on the main water supply line into the house...
 
Buy an Ro unit off eBay- $80- you can always upgrade to DI later and you get almost all the benefits with just to. Water softener might actually be your problem, but it will make the Ro membrane last longer
 
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