need some idea's

[bjledbetter]

This haddoni has been in my care for for over a month now. It's mouth was slightly open when i got it and i figured it was just stressed as it was well inflated and extremely sticky. It started to settle in my tank and for about a week the mouth closed and the foot stayed buried. Then my rockwork colapsed and I had to re scape and had to move it. Sense then it won't bury its foot and is attached to the rock at the sand leval. It is still very sticky, but the mouth won't close and its deflating around mid day bu fully open all night. I do have a mag and several bta's in the tank as well so I don't think its a water quality issue as everything else is still fine. Any idea's? Should i cipro it? I don't want to lose it.
Pic of the Haddoni

My other nems. And the camera made the mag look weird. but just to show you they are fine.

 

[Daniel62]

Yes, I would start the cipro treatment right away. In my opinion this nem is sick.

Good luck

 

[bjledbetter]

I was afraid I'd hear that. I'll start tomorrow.

 

[bjledbetter]

Moved nem and rock it was attached to, to a 10g tank that had some sand in it. I just left it not wanting to clean sand out at 4 in the morning. After adding flow, heater, lighting, cipro it went lights out for about 9 hours. Got up this morning(Thursday) and checked on it and to my suprise its burying its foot into the sand/rock interface and looks bigger than ever and the mouth is mostly closed back up. Could it just not have liked my dt or maybe battling with my ritteri?

 

[bjledbetter]

It now looks like this.

 

[ClownNut]

i dont know cipro with sand. i always do it with bb.

 

[bjledbetter]

What I'm wondering is if it really needed the cipro or if it wasnt happy in the display tank. Would the cipro have acted that fast? It looks pretty healty to me now. over the second night it was in there it buried its foot and the mouth has nearly competly closed. I'm thinking it was warfare.

 

[Reef1589]

What I'm wondering is if it really needed the cipro or if it wasnt happy in the display tank. Would the cipro have acted that fast? It looks pretty healty to me now. over the second night it was in there it buried its foot and the mouth has nearly competly closed. I'm thinking it was warfare.

Yes, in some cases cipro does work that fast...

My S. gig for example

Day of Purchase -
<a href="http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k507/Reef1589/?action=view&current=IMG951133.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k507/Reef1589/IMG951133.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

About 36 Hours Later
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[Reef1589]

I will note tho, in my Experience...

whenever I kept S. Haddoni and E. Quad's (RBTA's) in the same tank.. my haddoni's would never settle in, and always kept moving around..and just seemed stressed..

now I know other reefers where this was never a problem for them, and housed both perfectly fine.

 

[Jcreefer1]

Yes, in some cases cipro does work that fast...

My S. gig for example

Day of Purchase -
<a href="http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k507/Reef1589/?action=view&current=IMG951133.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k507/Reef1589/IMG951133.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

About 36 Hours Later
<a href="http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k507/Reef1589/?action=view&current=20121223_091721.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k507/Reef1589/20121223_091721.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

That's pretty amazing for just 36 hours.....

 

[Reef1589]

That's pretty amazing for just 36 hours.....

Not to hi-jack thread but you and or the OP can read the Treatment thread here
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2247231

Knowledge is power

but I still think in this case for his haddoni, the RBTA's could be the result of the stressed haddoni... if the OP would be interested as to take the RBTA's out, and see what the haddoni acts like with the RBTA's out of the tank..

in my experience my haddoni moved around for months, mouth would go from tight to slightly open, back to tight, always changing, tense tentacles, just looked stressed..
2 months later, I removed my RBTA's, did a water change, fresh carbon and my haddoni never moved after that day... and tentacles got longer, and not so stressed looking, and he really opened up then, and got big..

 

[M Woodhill]

Moved nem and rock it was attached to, to a 10g tank that had some sand in it. I just left it not wanting to clean sand out at 4 in the morning. After adding flow, heater, lighting, cipro it went lights out for about 9 hours. Got up this morning(Thursday) and checked on it and to my suprise its burying its foot into the sand/rock interface and looks bigger than ever and the mouth is mostly closed back up. Could it just not have liked my dt or maybe battling with my ritteri?

imo,

make the hospital tank as simple as possible--no live rock/sand

did u do light acclimation of the hem?

imo, light is the key to acclimatin a new nem. but personally i never had a h. carpet. i had gig, mag, rbta, lta, sebae

gig+lta--moderately sensitive

rbta+sebae--very, and roamin if stressed

mag--very, and deflated if stressed

i basically put a stylofoam/cover to reduce the light first then see whether to put in qt. i was among the precursors of treatin em with antibiotic but don't forget lighting is way weaker in qt unless u use the same lightin system with that of dt

my mag is still acclimatin and healin. when i removed the cover, it shrank and its mouth gaped. so i put the cover on and it returned to better conditions

 

[bjledbetter]

I did not light acclimate it. It was under the same lighting in the fellow reefers tank as my dt so i didn't think there was a need to. Reef1589 thats a major improvement that gig looked rough,and now looks good. I don't want to move my rbta's as thats what i'm slowly converting my tank over to is a mostly bta dominated tank with my mag of course. This haddoni may find a new home in my 40 breeder if it continues to look good, my clown pair would love it, and it would be the only nem. I would have never thought the bta's would have caused it. M. Woodhill I wanted to see how the haddoni would act in a tank by itself, the cipro treatments have been just a added precaution just in case it was actually sick. I've never saw anything come out of the mouth and its just generally appeared stressed which is why I though the mag was causing it. Hence the full setup for qt/ht. Lighting in the qt is a evo 200 led unit on about half way. Your mag looks great got any more pics of it? how long have you had it? I've had mine a year as of this past Wed. I was lucky on it I've never had a problem. Thanks guys for all the help. I think the other nems in my dt were the cause of it not doing well, so should I conttinue the cipro or just observe for a few days?

 

[M Woodhill]

I did not light acclimate it. It was under the same lighting in the fellow reefers tank as my dt so i didn't think there was a need to. Reef1589 thats a major improvement that gig looked rough,and now looks good. I don't want to move my rbta's as thats what i'm slowly converting my tank over to is a mostly bta dominated tank with my mag of course. This haddoni may find a new home in my 40 breeder if it continues to look good, my clown pair would love it, and it would be the only nem. I would have never thought the bta's would have caused it. M. Woodhill I wanted to see how the haddoni would act in a tank by itself, the cipro treatments have been just a added precaution just in case it was actually sick. I've never saw anything come out of the mouth and its just generally appeared stressed which is why I though the mag was causing it. Hence the full setup for qt/ht. Lighting in the qt is a evo 200 led unit on about half way. Your mag looks great got any more pics of it? how long have you had it? I've had mine a year as of this past Wed. I was lucky on it I've never had a problem. Thanks guys for all the help. I think the other nems in my dt were the cause of it not doing well, so should I conttinue the cipro or just observe for a few days?

If u run carbon, I don't guess other nems bother that much. I guess antibiotic treatment is suits more for those purchased online or vendors. Those nems purchased from reefer neighbor r usually healthy so i suggest wait n c

About rbta, feed it regularly it grows fast and when over 15 in, they split, then feed the news ones regularly, u r very soon to have a rbta tank

They grow like pests

 

[bjledbetter]

Looking a lot better and back in the dt