Nemo Babies - Kat's 90g

The male is the one that is constantly taking care of the eggs. The male clown will also pick out any dead/unfertilized eggs. They fan them with their tails to increase water movement over the eggs. This helps oxygenate them and get some flow around them so fungus doesn't kill the eggs.

I wouldn't bother taking the rock out of the tank. Let them hatch and collect them at night. Tonight may be the night they hatch. I have never heard of a clownfish hatching during the day, and most hatch somewhere 20-120 minutes after dark. If they hatched during the day, more fish would be around to eat them (including their parents). Just scoop up the fry after they hatch like I explained earlier. you'll get a bunch of them this way.

And Kat, you've got PM.
 
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So... You've got the fry in the tank eating rotifers. Excellent!

You should be siphoning the fry tank daily to pick up poop, dead fish, etc. You can slowly drip (like 1 drop per second) new or used (from your display tank) saltwater into the fry tank to replace the siphoned water. This will help keep ammonia down a bit.

Once the fry are 4 or 5 days old, you can turn up the air bubbling a bit to. This will help oxygenate the water more and get some more circulation.

Once the fry are about 5 days old, you have a decision to make. Do you want to feed the fry crushed pellet/flake food, or do you want to feed them baby brine shrimp?

I would go with the brine shrimp, at least for a couple days. Baby brine are actually pretty good for the babies. Get some brine shrimp and follow the directions on hatching them. Certain manufacturers say to use more/less water and salt, so follow the directions. What doesn't depend on the manufacturer is how you feed them to the clowns. Make sure to strain the shrimp through a rotifer screen. you don't want to add brine shrimp water to the larval tank.

You want to overlap the feeding of different foods. Continue feeding rotifers until the clowns reach 7 or 8 days old. At 5 days, start with the brine shrimp. At 9 days, stop feeding rotifers and start feeding flake food lightly. Remember, you don't have any live rock in the tank for filtration. At about 10 or 12 days, you can add a sponge to the tank for bacteria to colonize on. It would be great to add this to the sump of your display now so it will colonize some.

At day 11-13, stop feeding baby brine. Use crushed up, high quality flake or pellet food.

That's it for feeding. It is kind of a pain, but relatively straight forward.


Something else you should know is that the clowns go through a metamorphosis. It isn't nearly as drastic as a butterfly/caterpillar. They hatch as undeveloped fish. Their digestive tract isn't formed well. At around day 7 or 8 they go through a metamorphosis where their digestive tract forms and they start acting like fish. Their swimming looks more like a regular fish, and they start to get their head stripe. The weak clowns won't survive metamorphosis. Expect to lose at least a few clowns around this time. There's nothing you can do.

I think it's around 18 days for them to get their second stripe, and 35 days to get their third stripe. I can't really remember though.

That's pretty much it to raising clownfish. There are some differences between ocellaris, percula, maroons, and others, but the basic care is the same.
 
I'll post some tips/tricks to use and some things to watch for later today or tomorrow morning. Lunch is over and I've gotta get back to work.
 
Excellent instruction, thank you so very much. Update on 90g nemos...they are all boasting silvery eyes and very elongated now. Fry tank is set up. At lights out tonight, all pumps and powerheads will be shut off. Stay tuned.
 
Tagging along with your adventure Kat. Thanks for the updates.

Also thanks to NirvanaFan! Thats some very detailed advice your giving. Great job...
 
Glad to have anyone along...this first try may go badly...but ya never know if you don't try! Agreed...on the info.

new pics...
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thank you so much for the instruction.
 
I can't really tell if they're going to hatch tonight. I'm not sure if I can link to another site or not that has some better breeding info, and where I got that pic. Mods, can I?.
 
Actually, on further inspection, they look like they will hatch tonight. It's really hard to tell from a picture though.
 
Some tips and tricks I have picked up along the way.....

If the baby clowns have too much light overhead, they will do headstands on the bottom of the tank. Either cut some light by raising the canopy/overhead lights, screen it with some sort of mesh, or add some more phytoplankton to the water. The clowns usually only do this for a week or so.

It may sound weird, but be careful of water changes. Even low (10% water changes can shock baby fish. Make sure to do them slowly. pH of the fry water will be pretty low, doing a water change can actually raise the pH of the tank water and convert the ammonia to a more toxic form.

Don't feed baby brine for more than 4 or 5 days if possible. The fish can go through what I call brine shock. They are extremely susceptible to shock. Even something like dropping a gang valve or cup into the fry tank can cause them to go into shock and die. You will notice that they will swim in a couple quick circles and sink to the bottom of the tank. There's not a lot you can do about this besides feed brine shrimp for less time, add something else to their diet (like crushed high quality pellet/flake food) or be extremely careful. I suggest NOT doing water changes from day 3 on with feeding solely brine shrimp.

Black out the side of the fry tank for the first couple days. Some people say it helps the fry see, other people say it doesn't matter. It surely can't hurt.

Make sure to have the air bubbling in the fry tank right under the heater. This will help disperse the warmer water.

Don't get depressed if you lose your first few batches of fry. Most people fail to raise a fish their first few times. I failed the first 2 times to raise any, then got 4 on my 3rd try. It's okay to lose the fry, just try to figure out what happened. Did they day from lack of food? bad quality food? If you can learn why they died, you will be a more successful breeder.

If the fry only make it 12 or 16 hours, the fry probably died from capture related problems/injuries. Make sure you are EXTREMELY careful when collecting the fry. Don't just dump them in the fry tank. Submerge the cup and tilt it on it's side.

Make sure you ask questions. It is hard to raise marine fish. If it was that easy, then everyone would do it.

If the fry only make it to 2 or 3 days old, they died from malnutrition. This could stem all the way back to feeding the parents. Make sure the parents get a high quality diet. Feeding squid (high in fat) is good in moderation. Make sure to not feed it as the sole food, but work in a little bit if you can. I like to feed my own mix of frozen seafood (clam, shimp, squid, nori, tuna, etc). If you are sure the parents are laying good quality eggs, the rotifers you are feeding could be a problem. Make sure to feed the rotifers phyto, and often. The rotifers are a delivery mechanism for getting the highly nutritious phyto to the fish. Make sure their density is high in the fry tank.

Maybe one of these days I should post exactly how I culture phyto and rotifers, with pictures. Words only say so much.


Anyway, that's all I can think of for now. Make sure to ask questions if you have them. Even if you may be interested in breeding, it never hurts to know how to do it.

And if anyone has breeding fish (particularly clowns) and needs phyto (nannochloropsis) and rotifers, let me know. I'm more than happy to give you some live starter cultures. If you're not interested in raising you fish, collect the fry and give them to me to raise! :D
 
Actually, on further inspection, they look like they will hatch tonight. It's really hard to tell from a picture though.

i'm watching....so far...no one wants to move. i'm kinda glad...because i'm up to my ears in creating a breeding station in the studio....:rolleyes:

congrats Kat.....

thank you, Henry.

Kat's had her crash course in clown breeding. Good luck, let me know if there are any questions.

I took NOTES!!! I looked at rotifers with a loop in a petri dish....it was like being back in biology class....I LOVED IT!

I am equating this whole process to starting and keeping going....of all things...friendship bread. :lol:

Once it clicked that the phyto is what the fry eat...and that the rotifers are the delivery system...it started making a BUNCH of sense very quickly....

more pics to come...got a feeling it may be an all nighter.....
 
grabbing pics...doesn't look like we will have lift off tonight. set up teenie tiny breeding facility in my studio by the aggressive tank. this is by comparison...NirvanFan's area is AWESOME. good start. stay tuned.
 
okay...here we go.

Fertilizer (no...IT IS NOT EYE SOLUTION...that's just the bottle it is in...don't want to mislead anyone)
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phytoplankton
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temporary housing for rotifers until tomorrow when i can actually think straight...lol.
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2.5 gal tank....i wanna gut load these fishies as best i can...then transfer to the 15g frag tank i started. (no frags...so good thing i put this off)
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look how cute.....believe me...if this works? i'll be soooooooooo jazzed.,
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so pretty much...fertilizer = food for phytoplankton. phytoplankton = food for rotifers. rotifers = delivery method of phytoplankton to fry.

this may be clicking...but since it's 1am? hmmmm.....
 
This is a good thread,definately absorbing the info.
Good luck with it Kat,nice work with the setups.Looking forward to more on this topic.

Pretty informative read Nirvanafan,
 
thanks...looks like today is the day...the eggs are pretty big now (for fish eggs) and every single one has the silvery eyes with center black dot. since i have a performance tonight, i will most likely try to harvest the fry before i go to the theater. Liam, my son, is learning quite a bit...and actually ABSORBING it...he's fascinated.
 
tank is wrapped in black trash bags. room darkening shades...hoping that's enough...gonna give it a shot. If I can move the rock? should I?????
 
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