BreadmanMike
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How are you guys liking these? I'm thinking about grabbing a 6000 to run a 240 with two penductors, a 65, a 92, feed my BRS dual reactor, and a UV. Will this be enough or should I get a manta ray?
New Blackfin from Reef Flo
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BreadmanMike
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That's great. I was really dreading the thought of using a 700w pump. :lol:
Are these using Baldor motors? I didn't see anything on the site in the description of the motor type.
Are these using Baldor motors? I didn't see anything on the site in the description of the motor type.
superedge88
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The 6000 definitely will NOT have enough head pressure to do all that. The penductors would barely have any flow coming out of them, and flow elsewhere would be piddley. What you are needing is a high head pressure pump, the Panworld 250 PS / Blueline 100 HD would work great for you.
superedge88
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The motors haven't been identified by reeflo as far as I know.
BreadmanMike
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I'm using a panworld 250 now. I want to switch to a Reeflo since they are a bit quieter. I guess I'll get a marlin then.
BreadmanMike
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Actually to add to this, I don't have the 92 or the UV hooked up to the system yet so I doubt the marlin will be enough. I think I'll ask Chris what he would use.
Thanks guys!
Thanks guys!
superedge88
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My 6000 pulls 277 watts.
You running penductors?
Have you ran eductors and penductors with this pump?
I told someone at reeflo when I ordered that is what I intended to do with one and they told me it could handle them with minimal flow loss. Granted Chris did not say this, And it could have been an error on thier part.
I just stated my opinion, You act to correct me as if i told him to put 20 tangs in a 50 gallon. LOL
I plan on getting 2 penductors installed soon.
I dont think it will kill the pumps performance all that much. IMO
But what do i know eh?
Sent chris an email. I'll reply after he responds.
superedge88
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Yes I have ran this pump with eductors.
I used to run eductors on my 150 gallon with a Panworld 250PS plumbed from my basement. I decided to go with energy savings and go with the Blackfin 6000. I installed the Blackfin on my system and just for giggles I tried it out with the eductors still installed... very poor performance out of the eductors. So even if the Blackfin 6000 was plumbed with 10 feet less of head pressure it would definitely not be able to run 2 eductors, 3 other tanks, a calcium reactor and UV. The head loss from just the amount of elbows alone would probably suck up 50% of the available 27 feet of head pressure which would leave you with hardly any power to circulate water in a satisfactory manner.
BreadmanMike
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superedge,
Everything is plumbed with spaflex and braided hose. There's a few T's and a couple Y's, but no 90's or 45's.
With a Marlin at 20' head I should get 1655gph.
With a 6000 at 20' head I should get 2300gph.
I'm not saying you are wrong, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
Everything is plumbed with spaflex and braided hose. There's a few T's and a couple Y's, but no 90's or 45's.
With a Marlin at 20' head I should get 1655gph.
With a 6000 at 20' head I should get 2300gph.
I'm not saying you are wrong, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
superedge88
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Have you calculated your total head loss? What is it? The main page has a great head loss calculator, you'll be surprised to see how quickly your available head loss is eaten up by diameter of hose/pipe used and a couple of junctions.
It takes about 20-25 feet of expendable head pressure to run each eductor at peak efficiency, to run eductors properly you need PRESSURE. Listen to Chris if you like, I actually ran the pump using eductors, and it definitely didn't even come close to running them like the Panworld 250 did. The math just doesn't add up to use one in your application. This would be a good read for you to look at if you want to run eductors. http://www.kthsales.com/website/Misc/hello_salt_water_enthusiasts.htm
mkarston
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Yeah, so my 2500 is being replaced for the loud rattling as well. I emailed Chris a audio file containing a recoding of the pump. He said it was either the fan cover or a bearing of some sort. Since the pump didn't quiet after the fan cover was removed it must have been the bearing.
I first just experienced the same motor "humm" that you've also described, but after a while became loud with a rattling noise. I also noticed that it quiets down every so often, but just for a minute.
Hopefully this won't be the case with the new one, as I am pretty satisfied other then that.
I first just experienced the same motor "humm" that you've also described, but after a while became loud with a rattling noise. I also noticed that it quiets down every so often, but just for a minute.
Hopefully this won't be the case with the new one, as I am pretty satisfied other then that.
BreadmanMike
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It looks like a Hammerhead is what's going to be best for me. I'm awaiting a return response to be sure.
I was really wanting to try one of these BF's.
I was really wanting to try one of these BF's.
