New CB Latz Clowns

Eastamherstbias

Eastamherstbias

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Just received my second CB Latz clown. Wanted to share some pictures.

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I would like to try but that is years away. The female is 1.5 years old and the male looks like 5-6 months max. I upgraded their bubble this massive Green BTA with pink tips and they love it. We will see how they adapt.
 
Nice pickup... Been eyeing on a pair myself but way too expensive. Btw where whom did you acquired these from???? Good luck breeding them.
 
I thought the clowns coming from Honolulu were all supposed to be full bars? I don't want to make you feel bad but that larger clown is not very good quality (to my eye). I'm surprised the breeder let it go. I would have culled it. Bad stripes, hump back, crooked jaw. For what you pay for these clowns the breeders need to deliver perfect quality. "Latezonatus" means "wide stripe". Can't be a wide stripe clown without a stripe :)

Again, don't want you to feel bad, but if I had gotten that clown I would have been on the phone to the breeder immediately. Compare that clown to the clown in my icon, which I believe to be a pretty good holotype.

Here's another (granted he is missing back of dorsal fin - but use it as an example)

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Poor big guy! The little one has full bars CB from Pacific Island Aquatics. Yes, I noticed all of her issues when I bought her (bigger one) from the LFS. Swims fine, eats a lot. I hate killing things just because they are not pristine. I understand the reasons, I just don't like going Hilter on it.
 
Eastamherstbias said:
Poor big guy! The little one has full bars CB from Pacific Island Aquatics. Yes, I noticed all of her issues when I bought her (bigger one) from the LFS. Swims fine, eats a lot. I hate killing things just because they are not pristine. I understand the reasons, I just don't like going Hilter on it.
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I don't think of it as "going Hitler". I think it is part of responsibility of being a breeder, and making sure that you are constantly improving (or at least maintaining) the breed. If you pass on poor quality offspring, and these are in turn used to breed even poorer quality fish, pretty soon you are left with nothing. With dogs you don't euthanize them, you just neuter them and make sure that you only use the best, highest quality dogs to pass on the genes. Unfortunately you can't neuter clownfish.

That is, of course, if you are a reputable breeder. Some dog breeders are not; hence puppy mills and the unfortunate consequence that as the market popularity of a breed increases, its general quality decreases. I hate to say that some clown breeders are only in it for the money - but the reality is that some clown breeders are professionals who use their fish breeding to put food on the table, and if their clowns are poor quality they don't really care as long as people buy them.

If you think culling clowns is hard, consider koi. At Japanese koi farms, over a hundred koi are culled for every one that goes to market. And champions are fish that are perhaps 1 in 100,000. Grand champions are 1 in millions. So yeah, they cull a LOT. But they only allow the highest quality koi to breed, so that over time the strain improves.
 
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Keep her as a pet. Enjoy her. Keep her for years as your friend. Just consider getting another fish as your "alpha" breeder.

Think about it this way - you'd be really frustrated if you were having trouble breeding nice fish and kept changing your brood system, your grow-out, your feeding regimen, etc, and couldn't improve the quality, when in fact the quality problems were due to your brood stock.

The best way to produce perfect quality fish is to start with perfect quality adults.
 
We all know where the misbar latz came from and all of them looked like this. I drove all over jersey to see two pairs and both pairs of misbars looked terrible.

Then i saw the ones from Hawaii and was blown away
 
Ha, I have no clue the location where the misbars come from. Where? How does the hawaii one (little one look). I think I was just obsessed with getting a Latz and then one showed up at my LFS. Now I am thinking of trading the misbar latz in for credit. I did pay 150.00 for her.
 
The A. latezonatus out of Oahu are being bred by Karen Brittain, formerly of Waikiki Aquarium (also "home" of Charles Delbeek). She is one of the most accomplished marine fish breeders on the planet - and has successfully managed much more difficult species than lats. Glad to see that the price for these high quality fish seem to have dropped recently as well.
 
Reefvette said:
this is my female
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I'd love to see a side shot - just to point out what a good quality captive bred clown looks like. I know Reefvette knows HIS stuff so HE only has nice fish :)

Just looking from this head-on angle you can see the perfect symmetry. The jaw is PERFECT (jaws are easily deformed/damaged in captive bred fish). No bumps or lumps in the exterior lines. Colors are really sharp with great contrast. Blacks are rich and deep, whites are clean with no yellow or red, orange looks clean (though hard to tell from this angle). Also, she has the white "lipstick" markings on her face which I think give this species a lot of its charisma (looks like a 5 stripe fish with white on tip of tail balanced by white on mouth). A beautiful fish in this photo.
 
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Bonsai lol I am um ehem a dude!. LOL LOL

The name stands for Reef Corvette LOL.

Let me see what i can find in regards to pics, these guys are both juvis.
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