OK guys and gals I've been spending money like a drunken sailor. So far I've purchased 2 lumenarc minis, 2 lumenmax 250 watt MH dimmable ballasts ,wired the ballast cords into the lumenarcs so I could use the quick disconnect from the ballasts, 2 Ushio 14k mogul bulbs, 2 icecap 660s for the T5s, the icecap 4 light retrofit kit, 4 tek 2 reflectors(separate but they will lap onto each other taking up less space and no gaps), and 2 geissman actinic + bulbs and 2 blue+ all that is left to buy are the moon lights and the cooling fans. Grant