NEW plumbing method for an ULTRA QUIET REEF TANK!!!! LONG !!!!

[Rhodes19]

A happy wife is a happy life...:thumbsup:

Isn't that the truth. LOL!!

 

[S13<3]

thanks for all the info guys, seriously much appreciated. the tank is a 40br 1" drains, 3/4" return hung over the side, the over flow box is gonna be 14 5/8" high x 8" wide x 4" deep made from 1/4" acrylic, no teeth just straight over the top, im gonna round the inside edge with a router so the water sticks to the walls and hopefully eliminate splashing altogether, i really wanted an eheim 1260 but saw the "new" eheim 3000 which is $65 less and flows up to 792GPH!!!!!!!! my mind is pretty stuck on eheim as everyone and ther mother praises them as the most quiet and reliable pumps, o yeah almost forgot originally i was going to use a 20l as the sump but after making a cardboard mock up the tank fits under but ther isnt enough room between the stand post to put the sump in ther my fault for not accounting for this, im thinking of just using a 10g
do u guys see any problems with my plans so far? any advice or tips to make things easier?

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[RocketSurgeon]

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It can be done, but I don't recommend it. 10 gallons does not give you much room to play with. It is also very thin glass. The slightest bump has a chance to crack it.

edit: I've seen some try to connect two 10 gallons together, but again, I don't recommend this either. I would try to look for an alternative way to get the 20 gallon installed.

 

[S13<3]

yeah im not really happy with the 10g either, seems like alot of flow through a little tank, i dont like the 20h, i saw the aqueon 15g 24x12x12 but cant find it for sale anywhere and prob wont be cheap, id hate to cut the stand to get it in there

what do u guys think of the dimensions of the overflow box compared to the return pump(eheim 1260) and the 1" drains 3/4" return, will it flow right or be a waterfall?

 

[Riblet]

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[Saadatski]

Hey,

I have a 75g tank, and i want to set up a Herbie style overflow. how wide should my drain be, even though i have a bulkhead that fits 1", a reducer is always here. my emergency will def be 1" though

 

[TheFishMan65]

How much flow, and how much drop to the sump. I would think 3/4 would handle 500 with clean piping and a 2 foot drop.

 

[Saadatski]

its about 1.75 feet to drop and i need to get at GPH>580

I want to run my Mag 9.5 at full blast for some good flow. I will put on a gate valve on the drain so i can control flow.

 

[TheFishMan65]

I don't think you will make it with a 1 inch pipe. You can check your own number here.

Sorry

 

[Saadatski]

ok, i have a small problem. I ordered a 1" gate valve online, and i found out i only need 3/4. can i still use the valve and just adapt it to 3/4?

 

[das75]

ok, i have a small problem. I ordered a 1" gate valve online, and i found out i only need 3/4. can i still use the valve and just adapt it to 3/4?

not a problem

 

[Saadatski]

problem...

I put in 1 in for the main drain thinking i can throttle it down to my mg drive 9.5

Turns out its too fast for the pump, so it lets in air, and even when i throttle it back to almost closed, the pump runs dry. I should have used 3/4 in i know. Can i keep the plumbing under the tank to the sump and just change the pipe inside hte overflow?

 

[TheFishMan65]

I don't think the problem is the drain. It sounds like the water can't exit the tank fast enough. A high water level going over the weir's dam. So there is a lot of water 'sitting' above the tank full level - does that make sense? A smaller pipe would help some, but I expect the volume between 3/4 and 1 inch is not much (how long is the distance again?).

Can you add more water to the sump? Or does that cause a overflow when you loose power to the pump? Next options would be to choke back the return pump.

 

[Saadatski]

yeah i was planning on adding more water, problem is that i only have a 20g sump. I read osmewhere in this thread that the standpipe will solve this issure for me, except i do not know what a standpipe is...

 

[TheFishMan65]

The stand pipe is the pipe in the weir. How high is the water level above the pipe in the weir (the ones that feeds the sump). If there is a large distance than a longer pipe will mean at a power failure less water ends up in the sump since more stays in the weir.

 

[Saadatski]

ahh, well i just got it running and i have a bit of a risk because my sump might overflow if a power outage. my only solution would be to get a new and bigger sump, but that is not for now lol

Thanks and this system is working for me GREAT. my only problem is the overflow issue and that the water that goes into my overflow box makes noise and bubbles, any way i can stop that?

 

[Saadatski]

ahh, well i just got it running and i have a bit of a risk because my sump might overflow if a power outage. my only solution would be to get a new and bigger sump, but that is not for now lol

Thanks and this system is working for me GREAT. my only problem is the overflow issue and that the water that goes into my overflow box makes noise and bubbles, any way i can stop that?

 

[TheFishMan65]

Raise the water level in the weir AND the stand pipe. The drop won't be much so less noise less bubbles.

 

[Saadatski]

ok thanks!

 

[slammin]

does anyone have any ideas on how i can make an overflow like this work as a "Herbie"? it would have 2 holes rather than the one (this is an image i found online).

I'm guessing i can't do the herbie design from this as there is no way to make an emergency, but if i have ball valve on both drains that would make it silent (making both siphons), would it be safer than having one drain as a siphon with no emergency?

just looking for opinions on how i can have this overflow running dead silent and be safe.