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birdman204
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boogs said:plumbing shots...
You can never have too many unions / valves
I'm sold.
Bemmer
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Hey All,
I am planning on getting a HD 4-way unit for my 120 gallon tank. I was going to get the Sequence Reef FLO by Dart (600-3200 gph) but it has a 2" inlet and my bulkhead for the water intake on the closed loop system is only 1". Do I go with a different pump, possibly a Ampmaster (assuming they have a 1" inlet) or try a different configuration?
Unfortuantely, the tank is already set up and has been running for a year. No possibility for drilling anymore holes into the tank. Some had suggested I run a 2" pipe from the tank (over the top of the tank) down to the Sequence pump. This is a possibility but I would rather not have the extra plumbing on the back of the tank if it is not necessary.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you in advance.
I am planning on getting a HD 4-way unit for my 120 gallon tank. I was going to get the Sequence Reef FLO by Dart (600-3200 gph) but it has a 2" inlet and my bulkhead for the water intake on the closed loop system is only 1". Do I go with a different pump, possibly a Ampmaster (assuming they have a 1" inlet) or try a different configuration?
Unfortuantely, the tank is already set up and has been running for a year. No possibility for drilling anymore holes into the tank. Some had suggested I run a 2" pipe from the tank (over the top of the tank) down to the Sequence pump. This is a possibility but I would rather not have the extra plumbing on the back of the tank if it is not necessary.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Beenalongtime79
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Bemmer,
Just use the hook method of priming your pump... just bring the tubing over the side of the sump... and you should be fine... it's very effective and works very well. The one thing is whether, your sump can handle greater than 2000gph of flow you might get out of the pump. Just plug up that 1" bulkhead.
Look up GregT and his essay on his 400 gallon system. It's very well organized and he has an index that links to the hook setup for his return pump.
Peace,
John H.
Just use the hook method of priming your pump... just bring the tubing over the side of the sump... and you should be fine... it's very effective and works very well. The one thing is whether, your sump can handle greater than 2000gph of flow you might get out of the pump. Just plug up that 1" bulkhead.
Look up GregT and his essay on his 400 gallon system. It's very well organized and he has an index that links to the hook setup for his return pump.
Peace,
John H.
Bemmer
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John,
Thanks for the prompt reply. I will look up Greg's essay. So you suggest I put the 2" pipe in the sump instead of the back of my tank? That is a good possibility.
Currently the 1" bulkhead is one of three 1" bulkheads that I am using for my return back to the sump. They are gravity feed back to the sump. I am not sure how much water they are bring back into the sump now. How do I check to be sure the sump, which is just a 29 gallon tank filled halfway up, can handle the suction from the Sequence pump without pulling all the water out of my sump!?! Currently, I have a LIFEREEF skimmer, three submersible pumps (for return water to the tank,the uv sterilizer and skimmer), my heater and my carbon filtration in the sump.
Thanks for the prompt reply. I will look up Greg's essay. So you suggest I put the 2" pipe in the sump instead of the back of my tank? That is a good possibility.
Currently the 1" bulkhead is one of three 1" bulkheads that I am using for my return back to the sump. They are gravity feed back to the sump. I am not sure how much water they are bring back into the sump now. How do I check to be sure the sump, which is just a 29 gallon tank filled halfway up, can handle the suction from the Sequence pump without pulling all the water out of my sump!?! Currently, I have a LIFEREEF skimmer, three submersible pumps (for return water to the tank,the uv sterilizer and skimmer), my heater and my carbon filtration in the sump.
Lunchbucket
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i'm still in love w/ my 4-way unit!!!
thanks Paul
Lunchbucket
thanks Paul
Lunchbucket
Beenalongtime79
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Hey Bemmer,
Whoa there! I didn't know you only had a 29 gallon sump... With such a small sump... I don't think you'd be able to handle that kind of flow through the sump without a lot of noise and a lot of bubbles returning to the display.... I would suggest that you do go over the side of the display tank to avoid that situation. Just set up a closed loop. You can set up a hook prime with that as well to make it easy to prime.
Another suggestion is to get a pressure rated pump... a mak4- pcx-40 or even the new mak pcx-55 (Andy at MRC is carrying them) and put penductors/eductors on the ends of some of your outlets and really bump up flow (close to 5000gph).... I think that your sump maybe able to handle a little over 1000gph if you use some creative baffling, but I don't think +2000 is going to move quietly through that small sump of yours. This way you could use the hook set up in the sump and wouldn't have to set up a closed loop, although a closed loop will work fine for you... It's just hard to hide a 2" PVC pipe.
Peace,
John H.
Whoa there! I didn't know you only had a 29 gallon sump... With such a small sump... I don't think you'd be able to handle that kind of flow through the sump without a lot of noise and a lot of bubbles returning to the display.... I would suggest that you do go over the side of the display tank to avoid that situation. Just set up a closed loop. You can set up a hook prime with that as well to make it easy to prime.
Another suggestion is to get a pressure rated pump... a mak4- pcx-40 or even the new mak pcx-55 (Andy at MRC is carrying them) and put penductors/eductors on the ends of some of your outlets and really bump up flow (close to 5000gph).... I think that your sump maybe able to handle a little over 1000gph if you use some creative baffling, but I don't think +2000 is going to move quietly through that small sump of yours. This way you could use the hook set up in the sump and wouldn't have to set up a closed loop, although a closed loop will work fine for you... It's just hard to hide a 2" PVC pipe.
Peace,
John H.
MacnReef
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Ok guys I thinking I am jumping aboard. I am looking at getting the 4 way unit but am curious, what are the inlets and outlets. With an AmpMaster 3000 will I have enough flow for it. What is this "revolution", I see some of you talking about? Can I run two ports at one time, will it significantly cut down the flow on my Amp3000?
TIA, Mike
TIA, Mike
Lunchbucket
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the specs are on www.oceansmotions.com
mine is 2" inlet and 1" outlets. oh your amp master will be enough. you can throttle the outlets back to 3/4" if you need to (i did on my iwaki 55rlt)
revolutions turn w/ incresing pressure i believe....others can help comment.
you can run 2 ports at one time...depends on what drum you get there are 1, 2, 3, 4, 1 there is a 1&3 and 2&4 drum...there is another version too.
it won't cut down the flow it will just divert it to two of outlets from the OM.
later buddy
Lunchbucket
mine is 2" inlet and 1" outlets. oh your amp master will be enough. you can throttle the outlets back to 3/4" if you need to (i did on my iwaki 55rlt)
revolutions turn w/ incresing pressure i believe....others can help comment.
you can run 2 ports at one time...depends on what drum you get there are 1, 2, 3, 4, 1 there is a 1&3 and 2&4 drum...there is another version too.
it won't cut down the flow it will just divert it to two of outlets from the OM.
later buddy
Lunchbucket
could any of you guys that have these up and running please send me some vid clips of it in action if you do.. I am planning on 2HD 4ways for my 240. I will have 2 amp3k's so i can run one from 6am to 12am then the other from 12pm to 6am... that way during the night the flow will be reduced.. send clips to jeff@unionroofing.com
Peace
Peace
MacnReef
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gg...just a thought. If you are planning on shutting one pump off for that long, the water in the plumbing may become anaerobic and cause problems once it kicks on. That is just my two cents. I would run both all the time or just get one bigger pump with a 8HD.
Mike
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Damn Mike I thought I had it finally figured out.. Now I am second guessing myself hahaha... Anyone else have any feelings on this? maybe I could make it 4 hrs with only 1 pump.... If not I guess I will have to sell the amp3k and get a good sequence and just get the 8 way.. Please others chim in..
Peace, Jeff
Peace, Jeff
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