No polyp extension

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6781026#post6781026 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Micki
. I am upgrading my skimmer tomorrow in hopes that will help. Going from ASM G-3 to ASM G-4X

what's wrong with asmg-3? Asmskimmer.com recommend a g-3 on my 125.
 
johnvu713, there is nothing wrong with an ASM G-3 on a 125. If you look at my sig and do the math :) you can see that I have since changed a few things on my system and now have a total water volume of 245 gallons. Hence the G-3 is no longer appropriate. :) Prior to making those changes I was more than happy with the G-3.
 
Well for whatever reason, tonight I am seeig a little polyp extention on just about every SPS. Not much mind you, but a little and more importantly on almost every piece! One thing I have done, is added a very small amount of cyclopeze to the main tank every night even when I feed just the dry food. I haven't started the phyto yet. Not sure if that will make a difference in the SPS or not. Plus I will get my new skimmer tomorrow so that hopefully will help as well.

One thing I have noticed. I moved a few SPS to the pony tank. It took about 2 weeks before I noticed a large polyp extention on them. It has been about a week or so since I removed the yellow clown goby. I think there might be something to this... Although I put the goby in the pony tank. He never went to the SPS in there. And yesterday I didn't see him in the pony tank. He is always easy to find. A few minutes later found him laying on the stand that the tank sits on. Quite crisp.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6781615#post6781615 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tankslave
most of mine do grow, though not very fast. Most of the acros stay brown too, and dont show much color. my lps and softies do well and show nice color, go figure... :)

Mine were looking quite brown as well. I asked Melev about this and he said the brown is from excess nutrients in the water. My nitrates were never 0 but always 20 or less. I'm hoping the new skimmer would help this.
 
RIP Goby...
guess the sea horses chased him too much... :)
Yea, my nitrates are pretty much undetectable. Despite what the test kits say, if you can grow algae in the 'fuge, there's nitrate and phosphate in there somewhere. Usually bound organically, and broken down and taken up again pretty fast. You wont even see it... with a test kit that is. That's just been my observations.

I do agree with Melev, that its the excess nutrients causing excess zooxanthellae growth in the coral tissue (hence the brown). To get them to color up (Just my opionon here, not trying to start anything), is to either go bare bottom, or have a very low bioload. That usually seems to get rid of the brown, from what i've seen over the years.

I havnt tried the cyclopeeze yet, that might bee what i'm looking for. Keep us posted if you get any more of those little 8-legged monsters to pop their heads out... :)
 
I'm hoping the skimmer (the new one was added Monday night) will help a lot. I don't like the looks of a BB tank and my bioload is on the heavy side for sure... Hmmmm, guess I'll put a lot of hope into the skimmer. LOL
 
Yea, im thinking of doing some experimental setups, very nutrient poor, just for SPS, and see how they fare. Just LR, and a skimmer. Maybe just put some food in for the corals every once in a while, but no fish. we'll see...
 
I have very low nutrients because I skimmed heavy with an oversized skimmer and got an algae that sucks, the SPSs did fine
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6803039#post6803039 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tankslave
Yea, im thinking of doing some experimental setups, very nutrient poor, just for SPS, and see how they fare. Just LR, and a skimmer. Maybe just put some food in for the corals every once in a while, but no fish. we'll see...
Keep us posted. I'm hoping my new skimmer will pull out more so my SPS will hopefully color up. :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6803534#post6803534 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by marinelife
nutrients and nitrates = two different things

um...really?...
what else did you have in mind?
 
Nitrates and phosphates are the key building blocks of proteins and lipids, which is mostly what "organics" refers to. you can include carbohydrates in there if you like, but since most organisims in the aquarium are photosynthetic, a carbon source isnt really a problem. The limiting factor (particularly for algae) is its source of nitrates and phosphates, which is why "nutrients" in the context of marine aquaria, generally refers to the availabilty of nitrates and phosphates.

Carbon, Nitrogen, and Phosphate are three essential elements for life.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6806126#post6806126 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tankslave
um...really?...
what else did you have in mind?

tankslave, I was addressing your post where you implied that nutrients = nitrates.

Nutrients includes more than just nitrates.


Nitrates and phosphates are the key building blocks of proteins and lipids[/B]


Nitrogen and phosphorus are some of the building blocks, but nitrate and phosphate are ions that are produced by metabolism of the proteins.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6815212#post6815212 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Obi-dad
nitrate and phosphate are ions that are produced by metabolism of the proteins.

Ever heard of nitrogen fixing? :D


Anyways, back to the topic, im starting to think that polyp extension is due to food availability. I've had some species of zoos which used to be open during the day, but since closed. I tried feeding cyclopeze during the day for the first time today, and they all opened up.

Anyone with polyp extension problems have a UV sterilizer?
 
I would also guess maybe PH swings between night and day.... also believe it or not I had too much current in my tank and noticed polyps would not extend...but when flow decreased the polyps where fat and hairy after the lights went out..... I do agree with previuos posts on this subject I would yank the flame, clown goby, and coral beauty. They will nip corals even after the lights go out!!!!!! Remember that is when microfauna is the most active....good time for fish to feed and nip.
 
Well, I still see tiny bit of PE at night. Little to none during the day. However, after upgrading to my ASM G4X skimmer I am seeing a little more PE and certainly more color. I'm also seeing faster growth, although I can't be certain it's from the skimmer because I've only had the skimmer in a few weeks. But then again... I also took the plunge. I ordered a CA reactor. It should be here tomorrow. I got that more for the convenience, but the stability will be nice as well. The reactor also has a PH monitor on it. It comes with the package.

I have also started dosing phyto 2-3 times per week and I routinely add cyclopeze at night now.

As for the coral beauty and flame angel nipping at night. That doesn't happen here. My fish are really funny lights go out POOF they are GONE! I've been up all hours of the night and have NEVER seen them out. Sometimes my powder blue and or yellow tang will come out at night if I have the flashlight, but that it. No one else, so I don't think that is the case with mine.
 
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