Nominations for SCMAS Board of Directors.

[racer69]

Kevin, there has always been a board in this club. It is just that now some of those board members would like to sit back and enjoy what the club has to offer and not worry about the day to day working of the club as an organization. It will always be a fun club as long as I am in it, because when it isn't fun anymore is when I won't be around.

 

[racer69]

And by the way, I don't think anyone is mad at anyone, we are just discussing these things.

 

[reefkoi]

See Todd that sounds simple huh? But wait theres more to it
Lets say you get 10 votes for pres and 10 for treasurer.
Lets say i get 10 votes for pres and 8 for treas. which one of us is pres? which one gets treas?
See it can't work that way, It has to be a nomination for only one position and thats it, unless we just want to have a show of hands at the next meeting for who wins

You know what, so far you are pres i am vp who will run against us? this is interesting, maybe the point of multiple positions is valid? otherwise we are all running for different positions aren't we? with no competition.
I think we need to have a discussion at saturdays meet and brainstorm this a little more and make a firm descision on what route to go
Chris


Edit: Maybe we should consider accepting 2 positions if nominated for them just to keep it interesting, then if there is a tie I suppose we could flip a coin, or armwrestle.

 

[Butchdawg14]

lol nevermind ill just stay out of it....that will be the best thing for me....lol you all have fun!!

cant wait to meet the new board members!!

im saying this for real no sarcasism!

 

[COreefer]

To preserve the integrity of the club that Robert and I built from the ground up, those who are nominated to multiple positions have to pick one to run for. 2 other board members back me on this, so it is done. This isn't going to become a popularity contest...this is about who is willing to do what it takes to keep this club growing. My post may sound abrasive, but with all of the time Robert and I have invested into building this making sure there are meetings every month, a forum for communication, presentations, etc...this isn't against any person, or anything like that, it's what's best for the club, and what's best are for people who want to perform the duties of the position to serve, not just be there as a figure head.

 

[murfman]

It is pretty convenient that the two that don't back you were never consulted to begin with. What is the purpose of having a board with differing points of view if you are going to only ask the people that agree with you all the time? Just go with a board of 3 then. It would have been nice to be consulted about this.

 

[COreefer]

You know what Murf...it wasn't my idea to begin with, I'm just holding the line. Perhaps you should consult the others you refer to. I haven't been doing much behind the scenes lately other than ok the by laws and set up some of the presentations we have had in recent months.

BTW, sometimes when a decision has to be made in immediate fashion, that means someone has to make the call. I know how everyone else feels, so i made the call. This is nothing personal, rather what needs to be done to make things as black and white as possible, so that there isn't all of this back and forth posturing over individual self interest. I can tell by this thread who is actually interested in this club, and who is interested in themselves...

 

[reefkoi]

Thank's for stepping in Eric, Your descision was needed and I agree, the best move.
Moving the club forward and bettering it is my full intention, you and Robert have done your job and of course will continue to influence the new board I am sure!
Thanks,
Chris

 

[clowninaround74]

i know i probably shouldnt butt in but i thought i would make mention of my feelings about this thread in general.

I am 100% supportive of any decisions that are being made already and im not here to say that changing this around is wrong....but comon ppl. I mean honestly has there been any friendly comments made in this thread. I mean yes an occasional one here and there but to me the outlook of this entire thread is negative and is going nowhere good in a hurry. I understand politics of this club is a serious matter but can we do this without getting ppl fired up or casting what seems to be negativity on some people that might not agree with where this is going. Maybe its just me but i can see through this process some people disassociating themselves from the club completely. And isnt that the opposite of what the goal is????

I just wish this could become more of an enjoyable process instead of everybody being up in arms about this ordeal. Cant this be dont the old fashion way??? you have a list of ppl who are running for their desired positions and you vote for them....thats it. If someone gets voted in and doesnt want the position, then the next candidate gets it by default. Idk i think we are all making a huge deal out of something that first graders do everyday with ease.


sorry if i overstepped my grounds on this but im amongst ppl here who i consider friends and i felt i could express my feelings.

again just my .02!

 

[COreefer]

Randall, your thoughts are appreciated...

Here's the problem...this isn't first grade. There are adult egos involved and where you find that, you also find self interest. This process has taken 5 or 6 months. This didn't just come up. The reason for the by laws and the elections are two fold. A) there are a couple of us who are spent...we started this 4 or 5 years ago, and we are just spent from all of the work that goes into it and having to protect the interests of the club, not individuals, but the club as a whole. B) there has to be a framework in place that ensures people will always work to further the club, not just get elected for popularity's sake, rather they take their responsibility seriously and that can only be done by people who are nominated running for an office they feel as though they can put time and effort into. If there isn't a serious willingness to work, the structure that is in place will collapse in months.

This has been like going to the dentist...the board members are not putting themselves in a position to have fun making decisions, instead they are putting themselves in a role that will always have conflict and sometimes on the spot decision making by individuals.

As for me, I am completely removed from any interests in SCMAS, other than to see it continue to grow. I am not seeking to be part of a decision making panel anymore, rather I just want to see the best interests of the entity carried out. There will always be obstacles...regardless of who is elected to these positions, there will always be challanges made to the by laws and even individuals. I hope people will seperate the politics from the fun enviroment which typically exists on this message board, and always exists at every meeting.

 

[clowninaround74]

how can this not be first grade....do you not think that children have egos also??? cmon now. But you know what happens is people get over things. If it is clear that people are running for positions just for ego sake then people dont have to vote for them. Do you not think that people running for presidential election arent on a big ego trip???? The fact is that you place your vote just like everybody else. If a person is elected that you didnt vote for or dont feel is looking out for the best interest of the club, then you have to let the consequences unfold for themselves. You say that your disassociating yourself with decisions but yet to me it seems as if your still trying to run this show. Let the people in this club vote for who they feel is best suited for the positions and if it doesnt work out then we have to put up with it until the next election.

I hear everybody complain about our president (bush), but is there someone out there saying no you cant run for the president of the USA because you only want it because of the title, or your only running because you have a huge ego about yoursef............no i think not. Let people do what they want and let it be. If you dont like where the club is headed then you run for prez again and make it how you want it.


thats all im going to say other than i know this is a club, and it has elected officials, but to me its just a big group of guys........and girls........that love this hobby. This is a joke to me why friendships are being saraficed over a stupid little club.

 

[COreefer]

Until this election is finalized I still am involved and will continue to perform my duties. This thread isn't one for discussion of how it should be...it has already been determined how it will be. There has been a lot go on behind the scenes you may not be aware of...

Now, please let this thread be one of continuing to nominate and acceptance or declination. I hope people will not be steered away from running for a spot because a difficult decision had to be made, unfortunately in this thread.

 

[clowninaround74]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9742562#post9742562 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by COreefer
There has been a lot go on behind the scenes you may not be aware of...

Maybe that is the problem here. Dont ppl who are involved in this club have a right to know and understand what is going on so they can vote for someone that can fulfill the demand and requirements involved.

Maybe its just me being new and i dont know what is going on but still. if so please let me know.

I hope people will not be steered away from running for a spot because a difficult decision had to be made, unfortunately in this thread.

unfortuately it seems that not only has this process of voting pushed one of the nicest guys out of the club so idk maybe a discussion thread about where this club is headed might be good idea...........that is if anybody cares. I know i do and think people deserve to be told what is going on rather then being told this is exactly how it is....like it or love it.

im done with this. I put what i feel and you guys can take it for what its worth.

 

[reefkoi]

I hate to derail this thread further, but I was thinking a thread dedicated to those seeking a position to basically campaign for the position themselves, like randall is suggesting almost.
A new thread outlining your ideas for the club, so voters know where a person stands. What do you guys think?
Chris

 

[Butchdawg14]

yea

 

[clowninaround74]

i agree but then again i dont even think i can vote since im not an official member of the club but good idea

 

[COreefer]

Those things have been done in the past...that's why we now have the by laws. There was a thread pinned to the top title "the direction of SCMAS" or something like that...it just recently dropped. The members here have known for sometime what has been going on, and who has been involved.

One other note, the primary reason I am taking it upon myself to make these posts is so that this doesn't become a pi$$ing match between those who will be running for offices. If someone chimed in who is in a position to run for president, VP or any other position, somebody would point the finger at them and say they are assuming responsibility before they have even been elected...please also refer to the by laws to find out who has voting power in the upcomming election and who doesn't.

At this point lets get back to nominating and allowing those nominees to accept or reject their nomination. Soon this will be over and there will be a new board.

 

[COreefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9742727#post9742727 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefkoi
I hate to derail this thread further, but I was thinking a thread dedicated to those seeking a position to basically campaign for the position themselves, like randall is suggesting almost.
A new thread outlining your ideas for the club, so voters know where a person stands. What do you guys think?
Chris

The suggestion is good as long as everyone running is in agreement, but I do want to remind everyone this is an election for interim officers until the annual election takes place in November I believe.

 

[clowninaround74]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9742751#post9742751 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by COreefer
Soon this will be over and there will be a new board.

sounds like we need it

 

[reefkoi]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9742780#post9742780 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by COreefer
The suggestion is good as long as everyone running is in agreement, but I do want to remind everyone this is an election for interim officers until the annual election takes place in November I believe.

Well then lets decide this week if we can before the voting starts.
I do understand its an interim board, but it's just as important to me as the november election since I will be able to vote and we as a board will have the ability to make changes and move the group forward.
Chris

Maybe more people will find the time to come to the required meetings and get involved in the November election. I am sure it will go smoother than this one.