North Dakota Mini-Ocean
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sherm71tank
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I thought the question about the screws was a good one. I've had the unfortunate experience of NOT being able to remove plastic screws from in sump skimmers I made before because I chose a thread tolerance that was too tight. Plastics do absorb water and swell a bit, some more than others. I find YOUR comment to be negative and nonsensical. Then again, it's not my thread....
Reefaquariumnut
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I think with my calculations I will have around 45,000 gph with everything maxed out (which it would never be). I am guessing at any one time I will have around 35-40k. I will have around a 3" sandbed.
More pictures on the way.
More pictures on the way.
Reefaquariumnut
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Plumbing is finally finished!!
Scott left last night at 3 am and we accomplished everything we needed to do to get the tank wet. We did a freshwater test and we had only one small leak off one of the OM4 ports and everything else worked perfect and our flow patterns are awesome!! No deadspots that we could see at the moment with everything running at full blast.
We have decided to go with (6) Luminarc Mini's (400W) due to the 3 bay sizes and a flew VHO or T5's on the center crossbraces. I will now have to order about 600lbs of sand and an ACIII Pro with all the fixings. Other than that I think my bank account has stopped bleeding...er, for a while anyway.
You won't see any updates until the weekend of the 12th of July. Scott has penciled in that date to bring up the calcium reactor, lighting and brackets, the 150 aggressive and sump, and dial in the system.
One other point to note...Scott will be designing a cooling tower on one side of the tank. Its basically an acrylic box with a plate that has hundreds of holes, a couple computer fans, and a an exhuast out of the top to release the warm air. The cooler water will be dumped back into the sump and is fed from a line off the barracuda.
Scott left last night at 3 am and we accomplished everything we needed to do to get the tank wet. We did a freshwater test and we had only one small leak off one of the OM4 ports and everything else worked perfect and our flow patterns are awesome!! No deadspots that we could see at the moment with everything running at full blast.
We have decided to go with (6) Luminarc Mini's (400W) due to the 3 bay sizes and a flew VHO or T5's on the center crossbraces. I will now have to order about 600lbs of sand and an ACIII Pro with all the fixings. Other than that I think my bank account has stopped bleeding...er, for a while anyway.
You won't see any updates until the weekend of the 12th of July. Scott has penciled in that date to bring up the calcium reactor, lighting and brackets, the 150 aggressive and sump, and dial in the system.
One other point to note...Scott will be designing a cooling tower on one side of the tank. Its basically an acrylic box with a plate that has hundreds of holes, a couple computer fans, and a an exhuast out of the top to release the warm air. The cooler water will be dumped back into the sump and is fed from a line off the barracuda.
matt & pam
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What is the plan for the john guest manifold, besides feeding a calcium reactor/kalk reactor?
Reefaquariumnut
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The media, calcium, and rowa reactors would be on that manifold. I might have to differ to Scott to answer that question. I know he had uses for all 4 ports.
chenzo1099
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Nice setup
spazz
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right now charles is in vegas trying to win some money so he can stock the tank. ha ha ha ha ha
so there wont be any updates until after the 4th of july. we will be seting up his 150 aggresive tank and finishing the main tank. we hope to have the sand and some salt water in the system some time in early july. then it will be a 6-8 week cycle time becasue charles will be out of town during that time. we hope to fool proof the system as much as posible by the time the tank has finished cycling. that way the tank is as stable as it can possibly get before he starts to add some fish to the system.
some one asked why i put 4 JG valves on the mainfold. that is for the reactors and any other thing he may want to feed in the future. why not be prepared for other things if needed. it dont cost that much to put a couple of extra valves into the system. then you dont need to shut the system down to install a lousy valve.
so there wont be any updates until after the 4th of july. we will be seting up his 150 aggresive tank and finishing the main tank. we hope to have the sand and some salt water in the system some time in early july. then it will be a 6-8 week cycle time becasue charles will be out of town during that time. we hope to fool proof the system as much as posible by the time the tank has finished cycling. that way the tank is as stable as it can possibly get before he starts to add some fish to the system.
some one asked why i put 4 JG valves on the mainfold. that is for the reactors and any other thing he may want to feed in the future. why not be prepared for other things if needed. it dont cost that much to put a couple of extra valves into the system. then you dont need to shut the system down to install a lousy valve.
I like the spiders. Nice and low profile, though a hell of a lot of work to get there
Just like using piping under the sand and rocks with multiple outlets, but very low profile.
Paul (OM) and I have talked about building laminar diffuser plates to go over bulkheads for testing. Worth a shot.
Sherm & Jon,
I usually drill my bolt holes slightly oversize to account for bolt swelling.
Great setup.
Just like using piping under the sand and rocks with multiple outlets, but very low profile.
Paul (OM) and I have talked about building laminar diffuser plates to go over bulkheads for testing. Worth a shot.
Sherm & Jon,
I usually drill my bolt holes slightly oversize to account for bolt swelling.
Great setup.
spazz
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the who idea behind the spider legs os to keep the sand bed from becomming a DSB. he does not want a 6" deep sand bed in there. the legs are low profile and the locklines are all hidden in the rock work so you cant even see the spider legs once the sand in in the tank. there is aproxmatly 14 sections of lock line all together. each leg has 3-4 sections of 1/2" lock line on it depending on where the rock is at. the other holes are blocked off. charles wanted to make sue there was flow in just about every little area at some point in time during the day. with the 6 tunzes and the baricuda for the return on dual wavy seas there should be enough flow to keep most of the detritus out of the rocks and suspended in the water to be taken out to be filtered out. it is really hard to see flow patterns in pictures but when your in front of the tank and all the tunzes are running then the closed loops is cycling throug the oceans motions you can see the current changes in the top of the water. we can never trully simulate the real oceans currents and tides economicly bu we can try. charles is a diver and understands the way the oceans current are and he wants to get his tank as close to that as he can afford.
jnarowe
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That's very interesting and thanks for the response. I will follow how this goes closely. I like the idea of the very low profile distribution of water and had a thought about it the other day.
I have seen some pipe installs in which the pipe was cut with a slot and capped to distribute high flow over a large area, and I am curious to see if your spiders could be used like that on a bare bottom tank. Something to think about anyway.
I had a hard time understanding why you went with clear material, but covered with sand, you could still uncover them and inspect for any blockage.
I have seen some pipe installs in which the pipe was cut with a slot and capped to distribute high flow over a large area, and I am curious to see if your spiders could be used like that on a bare bottom tank. Something to think about anyway.
I had a hard time understanding why you went with clear material, but covered with sand, you could still uncover them and inspect for any blockage.
Reefaquariumnut
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Actually the system worked quite well with just freshwater. The only problem I had was a Tunze switching adpater (power box) burnt out or something (the green light is off). I tried other units on the same outlet and they work fine. I am sure I will need to send it away and get fixed. I fired up all the wave boxes but I do not have my controller yet to make the water "dance". I will be ordering the controller today or tomorrow (time permitting) and have it here when scott comes back. I think he is also working on a eco-cooler type design to cool the water down at a resonable cost.
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