Not sure what these clowns are..

I wouldnt be worried especially since they are two years old.

If youre breedong them then you might have problems. As i said we just dont know.
 
Physical deformities are fairly common with clowns. The one probably should have been culled, but a deformity like that shouldn't effect the fish's life at all. It irritates me that breeders don't cull clowns with deformities like that, but it is what it is. I would have culled that fish.

They both have beautiful markings though. I would agree that they are probably a hybrid ocellaris/percula. As to what type, who knows. It's a guess.
 
that big hunched back beauty is one of the nicest colored clowns i've seen.
i'm a fan of the stubby clownfish so these look great to me.
i'd love to have a pair.
i'm not big on killing things either and no matter what fancy name you give it.
when you end somethings life you kill it.
btw lmk if you ever breed these i'd be interested buying some babies.
 
that big hunched back beauty is one of the nicest colored clowns i've seen.
i'm a fan of the stubby clownfish so these look great to me.
i'd love to have a pair.
i'm not big on killing things either and no matter what fancy name you give it.
when you end somethings life you kill it.
btw lmk if you ever breed these i'd be interested buying some babies.

Thanks! I don't think I could bring myself to kill a fish due to a deformity either, unless it was life threatening.. These guys are a mated pair, so let's hope they decide to make babies! If they do, this site will be the first to know!
 
Trust me, culling fish isn't something breeder's want to do, but it is a necessary evil. If you ever start breeding fish, you'll realize it just has to be done. In order to keep captive bred fish "up to par" with wild caught, culling is necessary.
 
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Trust me, culling fish isn't something breeder's want to do, but it is a necessary evil. If you ever start breeding fish, you'll realize it just has to be done. In order to keep captive bred fish "up to par" with wild caught, culling is necessary.
i know what you're saying about culling.
the funny thing is that almost every picasso, snowflake, and platinums for sure would never have existed if all abnormal colors were culled out.
i don't think our captive bred fish have to be kept up to par with wild fish.
generally tank life is much more peaceful than in the wild.
take the stubby clownfish which i don't have but plan on getting.
they wouldn't stand a chance in the wild, but i think they have a place in the reef tank.
i didn't mean to take this thread off topic, but hearing someone say that the fish he has would generally be culled just sounds crazy to me.
 
picasso, snowflake, and platinums were bred for their cool colors. I've got no problem with that. Most people (including me) don't cull for misbars, wrong colors, etc. People tend to like them. There is nothing physically wrong with them.

I disagree that our captive bred fish don't have to be up to par with wild fish. We (as breeders) should try to mimic the fish from the wild (minus coloring). Having properly shaped skeletons, correctly sized fins, no over or under bites, etc is important.

I'd guess that his fish didn't come from ORA, C-Quest, Sustainable Aquatics, or any large breeder. The fish has very cool markings, but as soon as it was realized that the fish had a structural defect, it should have been culled. I'm pretty confident those large hatcheries would have. Like I said before, it's not something pretty, and not something that people like doing, but it's a necessary evil. I would rather not see fish that aren't structurally perfect get into the mating pool.
 
I dunno. I have an amazing picasso clown that came from SA. He had a bad underbite when I first got him. I took him anyway since I have no plans for breeding and he had a neat pattern. He seems to be outgrowing the underbite though.
 
picasso, snowflake, and platinums were bred for their cool colors. I've got no problem with that. Most people (including me) don't cull for misbars, wrong colors, etc. People tend to like them. There is nothing physically wrong with them.

I disagree that our captive bred fish don't have to be up to par with wild fish. We (as breeders) should try to mimic the fish from the wild (minus coloring). Having properly shaped skeletons, correctly sized fins, no over or under bites, etc is important.

I'd guess that his fish didn't come from ORA, C-Quest, Sustainable Aquatics, or any large breeder. The fish has very cool markings, but as soon as it was realized that the fish had a structural defect, it should have been culled. I'm pretty confident those large hatcheries would have. Like I said before, it's not something pretty, and not something that people like doing, but it's a necessary evil. I would rather not see fish that aren't structurally perfect get into the mating pool.

I do see your point, and it is a necessary evil. Given the situation where i would be presented with a fish with a defect thats life threatening, im sure id be able to do it too.

Right now the best guess for these fish is: Picasso + Fancy white mix.
 
Who these guys?

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Much better camera now too:

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