Nova Extreme t5 question

I had the 8 lamp unit and I dont see how you could put the individual reflectors on it. There just isnt the room. Maybe the bulbs are more spread on the lower lamp Current fixtures.

That said, there is nothing wrong with those fixtures.
The reflector is a single but it is a decent reflector. I love the claims that a 2 light individual reflector set-up would slam the 4 or 5 light Novas. Its not that I have a closed mind to it its just that nobody could provide any figures to support the claim.

Simple upgrade for the fixture ... when it comes time to replace lamps, buy better lamps. The color of the Current lamps looks pretty decent but the German Bulbs and the UVL's definitely are brighter.

I can tell you from personal experience that the 8 lamp Nova Extreme WITH stock bulbs at 432 watts appeared signifignatly brighter than 4 110 watt VHO's with Ice Cap ballast and UVL lamps. I dont have any numbers but this is from personal observation and I do own both. I seem to remember that quite a few people had success using that type of VHO set-up a while back.

Bottom line, there is nothing wrong with the Nova. I have no doubts that it doesnt maximize light output with the reflectors it uses and I know that there are better bulbs from experience. But I wouldn't sweat the purchase or be quick to go with something else. As others have pointed out, it's a nice fixture that will do the job. Just because its not the best, doesn't mean there is anything wrong with it.

And ... I'd still love to see the comparisons between the individual and single reflectors. In fact, I'm still waiting for somebody to post a link to some hard figures. I mean, there are so many claims about how much more par the individuals have ... over 2 x the par figures as claimed in this thread. There has to be some sort of numbers to back that up. Again, I'm not saying its not possible, just that I havent been able to get the information so I can see for myself.
 
GSM guy, go buy a 4 bulb 36in tek light with bulbs. then buy a 4 bulb 36in nova with the same bulbs. measure the par of each and divide by the price. until you do that you cannot say it's 2/3 the cost with 1/3 the output.

You could say the same thing for many of the nicer T5's compared to the Tek as well...but everyone raves about the Tek.

What's the output difference of a tek vs equivalent Nova....with the same bulbs? At what depths are the measurements taken? I havent seen anything like this from grim or anybody for that matter

IMO tek and nova are at the same level, they are both cheap T5 set ups. The Stealth, FM, Solar Flare, Powermodule...those are "good" T5 systems.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9828680#post9828680 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Flint&Eric


IMO tek and nova are at the same level, they are both cheap T5 set ups. The Stealth, FM, Solar Flare, Powermodule...those are "good" T5 systems.
thats why im not comparing the FM, stealth, solar flare, or ATI.
 
why the bashing of the nova? shouldnt the same be of the tek, why buy the tek with 1/3 the efficiency the FM, ATI, Elos, Sfiligoi?

Just pointing out the highschool attitude of RC. it's like gossip ;)

A few people say the nova is terrible, and then the masses go preaching. You dont need individual reflectors to utilize the benefits of T5's. They are still good without SLR's. Just like Halides are good without luminarcs etc...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9828962#post9828962 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Flint&Eric
why the bashing of the nova? shouldnt the same be of the tek, why buy the tek with 1/3 the efficiency the FM, ATI, Elos, Sfiligoi?

Just pointing out the highschool attitude of RC. it's like gossip ;)

A few people say the nova is terrible, and then the masses go preaching. You dont need individual reflectors to utilize the benefits of T5's. They are still good without SLR's. Just like Halides are good without luminarcs etc...


yes, i would not buy a tek i would get the aquatinics or ati.
the tek is still better than the nova especially if you run a clip on fan over the bulbs.

the nova IMO is LIKE a scam people buy it hearing T5HO and not knowing about why people love t5 (reflectors).

if you know what your getting and you are comparing 2x65wpc to the nova, get the nova. but if you want "T5s" get something better.
 
<<< You could say the same thing for many of the nicer T5's compared to the Tek as well...but everyone raves about the Tek. >>>


I don't think the Tek fixture is anything special really, in fact IMO it's just a run of the mill T5 greenhouse light that has an extra power cord and a splash shield for use with aquariums.


The Nova Extreme fixture is just fine as a turn key fixture for many people in the hobby and will work perfectly for everything but the most light demanding corals or clams.
 
i have the nova and it did it's job, is there better out there (yes), but thats like just about everything out there, sure i could buy a better car, camera, house, etc, but it boils down to how much do i want to spend, for the money it gets the job done.
 
I have the Nova Extreme 4 x 54W T5 and have had great results with it. I have to keep the SPS high but that is not a problem. I supplemented with a 2 x 54W T5 Sunlight Supply Tek Retro System in my own DIY housing: <a href= "http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=920710” target="_blank"> The Javo Insignificant</a>. 6 bulb system for a little over $300. I would say that the 2 retro’s put out about 2/3 the light the 4 bulb system does. Just my opinion, and if I had to do it over again, I would get 3 retro kits and put them in a canopy. Well, that is my experience and here is a recent shot of the tank:

FullShot03302007.jpg


Jay
 
Another thing most people don't mention is that a fixture like the Solar Flare or ATI or retro setups using 6-8 bulbs w/Ice Cap reflectors and overdriving bulbs with a 660 ballast are actually total overkill for the vast majority of peoples tanks in this hobby.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9829076#post9829076 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by eddie c
i have the nova and it did it's job, is there better out there (yes), but thats like just about everything out there, sure i could buy a better car, camera, house, etc, but it boils down to how much do i want to spend, for the money it gets the job done.

whats the answer??

how much? Is it a specific dollar amount? how do you decide what you should spend? is there an equation that i could use?

what is "the job"?

im not being a jerk just playing devils advocate that is an abstract argument you have set up there.
 
Oh-no ... I got a nova with ho T5's and now all my corals are dead because I didnt get a fixture with individual reflectors. And all my fish are laughing at me, my snails are writing loser on the glass and my crabs are flipping me the claw ... What a SCAM!!!

Give me a break.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9829486#post9829486 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DarG
Oh-no ... I got a nova with ho T5's and now all my corals are dead because I didnt get a fixture with individual reflectors. And all my fish are laughing at me, my snails are writing loser on the glass and my crabs are flipping me the claw ... What a SCAM!!!

Give me a break.

not even close to what im saying
 
Hey, you used the word "Scam".

Sounds more like elitist snobbery than any real concern for how somebody else spends their money.

... Still waiting for those multi-X par numbers from a legitimate test.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9829706#post9829706 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DarG
Hey, you used the word "Scam".

Sounds more like elitist snobbery than any real concern for how somebody else spends their money.

... Still waiting for those multi-X par numbers from a legitimate test.

well i said its Like a scam IMO

knowng what we all know t5 WO refflectors is silly
 
just to let you know there is also a finnex fixture that is considerably cheaper that you could add indiv. reflectors too. There was someone on here that modded it just gotta find the thread...
 
I actually just saw a finnex fixture that wouldn't be too outrageous. any opinions on those. I know i have opened a can of worms here, oh, its interesting hearing everyones opinions. thanks for all the input
 
T5 without reflectors would be silly, agreed. Luckily the Novas do have a reflector.

Still, where are the numbers comparing T5 par with single reflectors vs. individual reflectors? Link, please. It's all I'm asking for.

BTW ... A small LFS has a beautiful reef display on a 4 ft. long, 90 gallon tank with only the Nova Extreme 8 lamp T5 fixture. It's working great. It's the perfect example of budget equipment with a generic skimmer (that cranks), $40 overflow, generic sump and middle of the road powerheads for circulation and a run of the mill submersible in sump for return flow.

Again, you DONT HAVE TO buy a Benz to get around town when you can get around to the same place with a Chevy.
 
This is a great discussion. I too am waiting very anxiously to see the hard PAR numbers on a test of individual vs. single T5 reflectors. Wear are all the hard core T5 people out there? Please give us a link or some PAR NUMBERS on this.
With out evidence saying something is so much better than something else is silly! I'm sure the numbers will give the edge to individual reflectors. It's just amazing to me people speak so matter of fact with out the numbers.
 
I have used the Nova for couple days and I decided it is not for me since the depth of my tank is 24" and my clam are complainting. Once I changed it to 250 HQI with T5, all my clams are happy.

Nova will do fine if you have a shallow tank or keeping softies only. It is still a light year ahead of power compaq.
 
Back
Top