Ocean Flo Maxijet Mods...
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Not that there's really a need to prove anything to anybody. Just seeing is believing IMO.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7159313810789461735
hahnmeister
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I can test myself. I have every prop available, and a couple SEIO's... but that assumes the SEIOs ratings are accurate as well.
matthewdmueller
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The kit from reefdom seems like a nice clean no nonsense deal. I know that it does cost a little bit more but overall the time to put a MJmod together vs the clip on and go time of the reefdom might be worth it. Also the reefdom seems like it has a much nicer mounting hardware design than the MJMod type. I would imagine that the reefdom and the MJMod are the same as far as performance if not real close. as far as the tunze, who wants to pay that much? $110... seems kind of pricy for a powerhead that only puts out 1200gph. Sure it looks pretty, but still. Also as far as the wave maker timer, I have run my MJs on 15second cycles for about 8 months now without a hitch. I use the reefkeeper2 rig, which is supposed to have a "soft start" thingamajiggy. I can hear a small click when they turn on but that is it and they turn on every time. Thats my 2 cents.
The only reason a lot of people have reservation about using the mjmods on wave maker/timer is because of the start up noise and damage of propeller blade. If you use a softer material for a stopper, you would eliminate both the noise and the prop damage. FWIW I have had great success using rubber bolts or weed wacker nylon rope for stoppers. the noise is barely noticeable and since they are softer than the propeller, no damage is done.
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Snarkys
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just tried to order the reefdom one so i could do the testing with one of the DIY mods , a tunze ,seio and a stock MJ 1200 but it looks like reefdom is out of stock. I think i will wait to test them until i can do all five side by side. I plan on getting video of the tests so other people can easily see how its done and repeat the tests for themselves.
will be nice to see how they all compare on the same test.
will be nice to see how they all compare on the same test.
toefutoefutoefu
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i also bought a pair of mods at macna. I've played with some maxi mods before as well, but the oceanflo stuff is tough quality. I have no interest in fiddling with which propellar or anything. It's a no nonsense excellent mod.
Although $59+ship is a bit steep too. Not sure $59 is worth it, but it was definitely worth the $45 i paid. easily triples my seio 620's. not sure about the 3000 claim, but easily 1800gph+
Although $59+ship is a bit steep too. Not sure $59 is worth it, but it was definitely worth the $45 i paid. easily triples my seio 620's. not sure about the 3000 claim, but easily 1800gph+
Bono
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Is anyone using the reefdom mod with a wavemaster Pro? If so do they always make the clicking sound and can it be eliminated?
I have the wavemaster and I'm considering using 3-4 of the 900 or 1200 of these for my 180 but I'm still up in the air.
I did a MJ mod on an old 1200 I had but it didn't come out great. The flow was much improved but not as much as I expected. I'm sure if I did a few and fiddled with them I could make a better one.
Currently I am using 2 Seio1500 with the new Seio multicontroller and again I am somewhat dissapointed. The change from 50 to 100% is nice but you cannot alternate the pumps and there is not a night mode. I am also considering replacing the 1500 with 2600's for a little more juice.
I have used the Tunze Streams and may go back unless I can find a cheaper alternative.
I have the wavemaster and I'm considering using 3-4 of the 900 or 1200 of these for my 180 but I'm still up in the air.
I did a MJ mod on an old 1200 I had but it didn't come out great. The flow was much improved but not as much as I expected. I'm sure if I did a few and fiddled with them I could make a better one.
Currently I am using 2 Seio1500 with the new Seio multicontroller and again I am somewhat dissapointed. The change from 50 to 100% is nice but you cannot alternate the pumps and there is not a night mode. I am also considering replacing the 1500 with 2600's for a little more juice.
I have used the Tunze Streams and may go back unless I can find a cheaper alternative.
SPStoner
Team RC
First of all, there is no more Marineland. The company is now just one of the brands owned by United Pet group, which includes also Tetra, Instant Ocean, Perfecto, and Jungle Labs, plus numerous dog and cat supply manufacturers. So, suffice to say that capital is probably not an issue for new product development.
As to the above quote, I submit that there is a third thing that may have happened. perhaps they (United Pet Group) are observing the various mods being made and the different websites and allowing these others to do the R&D for them? maybe waiting to see what works and what doesn't before bringing something to market?
Just my 2 cents, but nothing would surprise me in this hobby...
SPStoner
Team RC
BTW, I picked up an Oceanflo mod myself at MACNA. I'm running it in my frag tank, always on, and I get the intermittent chattering you would expect to hear from a powerhead on a wavetimer, except I'm not using a wavetimer.
I sent an email to the address on their business card I got from MACNA, and it was never returned. So, customer service after the sale appears to be lacking.
I sent an email to the address on their business card I got from MACNA, and it was never returned. So, customer service after the sale appears to be lacking.
smcnally
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It is a little pricey, but there's a reason why. I think right now, they priced them a little high to get back the money invested in the design. The guy that designed them spent a LOT of time in his machine shop making slight variations of each part. This resulted in a really nice product. I bought one of the first prototypes, and when the prop got a little noisy, I emailed the guy that designed them. The next time I saw him, he told me that the way he built the first props had a flaw and he replaced my props and gave me an extra which I haven't needed to use. I have a feeling they will drop the prices some once they recoupe some of that R&D money.
Better off how? It may be less expensive, but here is why I think you are not better off.
#1) You have to assemble it which can lead to a noisy pump if things aren't balanced exactly. The prop needs to be PERFECT for the pump to work well and not vibrate.
#2) The shrouds and mounting methods/parts offered on the site just don't look to be of any quality to me.
#3) No warranty on parts, and the site even has a **Disclaimer** that it is a DIY and that you will have "DIY Results"
#4) It is only $25 cheaper than an Oceanflo. The Oceanflo also comes with a nice mounting bracket. To me, that extra $25 is well spent.
I can check with Reefdom on this, but IIRC they sent the Oceanflos out to be have their flow output measured. I can definitely say that it blows away the Tunze 6060 I had and takes up a lot less room
.Don't get me wrong, I think the MJMod is great for someone that wants to build it themself, and if done right they can work excellent. I just don't agree that Oceanflos have a "Rediculous" pricetag since you get a nicely built product that has been tested and tuned, with a warrranty.
So much for the warranty
Chattering as in the prop hitting the stopper to right itself? This is a sign that the propeller is too large for the pump or there is too much resistance elsewhere. You might want to try adding a thrust washer or shave down the prop a bit to see if it will help.
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smcnally
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What size MJ are you using? The only time I've seen them do that is when a 1200 mod is run on a smaller MJ. Also, if you are using it on an older MJ, the cavity that the prop magnet may need to be cleaned. If it is a fairly old MJ, maybe the MJ needs to be replaced.
I think Scott was away for business (or vacation) this past week. Nobody was able to get in touch with him for some reason. He is back now though AFAIK.
Snarkys
.Registered Member
He got back to me pretty quickly .
Soon as he gets some magnets in he is going to send me a kit so i can test them side by side with the DIY mod , the seio and a tunze. Won't be motion picture quality or anything but i plan on tanking a video of all four and posting it.
IMHO, The comparison between the DIY mod and the oceanflow is kind of silly . They really hit a totally different market. There is a market out there for people who want a product that is fully assembled and will gladly pay extra for it. We don't all have the time , tools or ability for the DIY stuff .There is also market for many of us who enjoy DIY projects like this and don't mind saving a few bucks at the same time. For me the DIY projects make this more of a hobby than simply looking at the tank and doing water changes. I also think people have a certain amount of pride in the DIY mods after they build them, there is value in that.
There really is a place for both.
Soon as he gets some magnets in he is going to send me a kit so i can test them side by side with the DIY mod , the seio and a tunze. Won't be motion picture quality or anything but i plan on tanking a video of all four and posting it.
IMHO, The comparison between the DIY mod and the oceanflow is kind of silly . They really hit a totally different market. There is a market out there for people who want a product that is fully assembled and will gladly pay extra for it. We don't all have the time , tools or ability for the DIY stuff .There is also market for many of us who enjoy DIY projects like this and don't mind saving a few bucks at the same time. For me the DIY projects make this more of a hobby than simply looking at the tank and doing water changes. I also think people have a certain amount of pride in the DIY mods after they build them, there is value in that.
There really is a place for both.
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Jill & Brian
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I am running an older reefdom mod pointing directly at a Seio 820 across a 4' tank. The mod wins the fight hands down. Not sure of the flow exactly, but it is considerably higher than 820
As another testament to the reefdom mod, I have been running it for about a year, and it has never missed a startup, and is silent when running. It has run for the past 6 months without being cleaned, and it is still going strong, even coated with algae. I love it, and will get another one
As another testament to the reefdom mod, I have been running it for about a year, and it has never missed a startup, and is silent when running. It has run for the past 6 months without being cleaned, and it is still going strong, even coated with algae. I love it, and will get another one
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