Ocellaris or Percula?
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CoralsAddiction
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Looks like Ocellaris to me.I think percula...
Tigerdragon
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Percs wont have the black lining around the white
CoralsAddiction
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The clown is misbar as you can see. I have seen many misbar wild true perculas but I am yet to see a wild caught misbar ocellaris. That doesn't necessarily negate the possibility of this clown being wild caught though. Also as you mentioned the eyes are dark to indicate ocellaris.
ThRoewer
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Who did spread that nonsense around? Ocellaris certainly do have black lining around the white, especially the ones from the Philippines.
ThRoewer
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These pictures were taken in Philippine waters and the fish clearly show physical traits of ocellaris (high dorsal fin), yet have a percula like color pattern:
I had a pair of ocellaris that looked very similar to these and the black border showed only this clearly when they were paired up with a carpet anemone.
Like percula, ocellaris also loose the black when living in a H. magnifica.
I had a pair of ocellaris that looked very similar to these and the black border showed only this clearly when they were paired up with a carpet anemone.
Like percula, ocellaris also loose the black when living in a H. magnifica.
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CoralsAddiction
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Here's a picture of two wild Ocellaris clownfishes taken at LFS. One is darker than the other. I think they both came from Indonesia.
phender
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He didn't say ocellaris don't have black around the white, he said percs don't. He is still wrong, although I have seen some percs without a black outline, especially if they are young.
The above fish looks very ocellaris to me me. I can't see anything that would make me think percula.
ThRoewer
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I didn't get that one - it's even worse.
But I saw that false statement about ocellaris in some books or websites and it's just utter nonsense. Both species, ocellaris and percula, can have quite heavy black borders around the white bars when living in carpet anemones.
On the other hand, the black line will virtually disappear in both, ocellaris and percula, when living in a H magnifica.
The part that has not yet been properly researched is if certain strains of each species prefer either anemone. There is some research that points towards this - that the larva get imprinted with the chemical signature of their parents host anemone while still in the egg, and later look for this signature to settle down.
There is certainly less black in ocellaris that come from the southwestern region of their range (Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia) while the ones coming from the Philippines often have more black.
I kind of agree. What makes me think twice about calling it an ocellaris for sure is the relatively shallow hard section of the dorsal fin. In percula it is usually lower than the soft part while in ocellaris it is the other way around.
schatzi
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I will try for a pic with a different camera. When comparing to this pic at this link the pattern is very ocellaris.
When comparing to this pic at this different link the color is very percula.
So that's why I'm asking who thinks which one she might be? to me looks like she has traits of both
When comparing to this pic at this different link the color is very percula.
So that's why I'm asking who thinks which one she might be? to me looks like she has traits of both
nanoreefer1000
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Occy.
schatzi
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ThRoewer
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CoralsAddiction
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I saw a darker tank raised Occy today
ThRoewer
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I saw a darker tank raised Occy today
These are not only super nice in color but also seem to be free of deformations. I would have been very tempted to get them.
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