OCY Clown staying on sand bed not looking good
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Yeah no question who is going to wear the fins in that relationship. Don't worry those polyps should cover that rock in no time.
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my misbar took on nip, and the new clown turn to him. No fight my misbar turned sideways and did the shake. Awesome to see. I think I made a match.
lol I can't pass a deal - there were other grassy looking polyps on frag disk. I like how this one glows in my blue light. I am also in the back of my mine I am getting $5 of liverock who cares if it matches my other rock lol
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polyps closed up last night will that be a nightly deal? pretty cool to see. Based on my soft coral forum question it is normal not a sign of unhappiness.
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My other Juve didn't look good this morning. I am scared it is Brook now.
Is my more mature clown SOL if it is Brook?
Is my more mature clown SOL if it is Brook?
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It looks like- I think my misbar is a goner had to leave for work. If he is still alive it is probably not brook. He could have been slow to wake up. Although I think that is wishful thinking. I am going to search forum. Maybe there is something I can do for the healthy fish (a dip). I don't want to stress him and make him more susceptible to it.
Worst case scenario if I have brook and lose my fish can I continue to do frags in my fallow period?
plus lesson learned in aquarium happening on its time not mine
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http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2388437
Here is a link on Brook.
If I remember correctly a FW bath will help the fish symptoms but a Formalin bath will be treating. I think the fallow period for brook is 6 weeks. Just for reference if your going to treat them then they need to be in a QT.
Yes you can still do corals while the tank is fallow. good luck
Here is a link on Brook.
If I remember correctly a FW bath will help the fish symptoms but a Formalin bath will be treating. I think the fallow period for brook is 6 weeks. Just for reference if your going to treat them then they need to be in a QT.
Yes you can still do corals while the tank is fallow. good luck
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Misbar if he is alive when I get home doesn't sound like brook
If he is dead my loose understanding is a fish best defense is not to be stressed. My thoughts are a dip is stressful. So maybe the disease forum will tell me dip or not dip.
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If a fish has brook and left untreated the fish will die. The longer treatment is delayed the higher the likelihood of failure.
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I am rethinking the QT
I was never worried about the fallow period, but if it is brook I very well may have killed my new ocy.
I guess you have a ton more options to treat with QT.
My initial thought on fish disease was manage stress and reduce risk. So I thought since I only want 2 clown straight to DT was less stressful.
New though fish is going to get stressed and disease very well may happen so you start in the hospital and earn your way out.
If I kill these fish I will concentrate on coral and regroup
I was never worried about the fallow period, but if it is brook I very well may have killed my new ocy.
I guess you have a ton more options to treat with QT.
My initial thought on fish disease was manage stress and reduce risk. So I thought since I only want 2 clown straight to DT was less stressful.
New though fish is going to get stressed and disease very well may happen so you start in the hospital and earn your way out.
If I kill these fish I will concentrate on coral and regroup
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There are some things that a fish can manage to fight off, but there are many more that if left untreated is at the minimum a death sentence. Also, a few things require a complete tank reset to get rid of them.
If you do have brook then a QT is a must, there is no way around it.
If you do have brook then a QT is a must, there is no way around it.
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no fighting that- what are we thinking odd wise if 1 fish has it my new fish caught it? 50/50 or 90/10? IF it is 50/50 I would think wait for signs?
It seems like Brook bc it was said here, and he died so fast. I will read the link for other symptoms. (reading sympton wise listlessness is the only thing) I guess I will need to cue up that QT thread. If I do it I will be going into with uncycled which I guess mean daily water changes.
Going to seem heartless, but I thought about culling him prior to work. (might have been right?)
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a lot of times once symptoms are visible then it is an uphill fight. If it is brook I would say the other fish has a better than 50/50 chance of having it.
I personally am not convinced your other fish had brook. That is just going of the pic you posted and what you described. I did not see any mucus, cloudy eyes or sores. The fin damage could be attributed to the other clown.
If you do decide to QT them, FWIW I very seldom cycle my QT, then yes WC's and some prime will be your friend during the process. Let me know and I can try and help.
I personally am not convinced your other fish had brook. That is just going of the pic you posted and what you described. I did not see any mucus, cloudy eyes or sores. The fin damage could be attributed to the other clown.
If you do decide to QT them, FWIW I very seldom cycle my QT, then yes WC's and some prime will be your friend during the process. Let me know and I can try and help.
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I appreciate it- I am sure I will be asking. Honestly I just want to give the fish an honest shot and be conscientious
I will be watching closely and have to make a call this evening. If I have a dead fish, but none of the brook signs. I think I still hold tight, and really watch my other clown. If he shows any symptoms I fire up a 10 gallon and qt.
This had a shooting solution no QT assuming I can catch the fish minimum stress.
http://atj.net.au/marineaquaria/brooklynella.html
Both Lom (1995) and Noga (2000) recommend formalin baths of between 0.125 and 167 mL/L for 30 to 60 minutes. The warmer your water, the less formalin that should be used as both formalin and increasing temperature reduces the oxygen saturation of the water.
The bath water should be matched closely with the tank water and probably the best way is to take water from the tank and place it in a bucket, add the formalin. mix well and treat the fish. Replace the removed water with fresh seawater (artificial or natural depending on what is normally used). Add an airstone to the dip bucket to ensure good aeration (and then toss the airstone away). After the dip is completed, dilute the dip water with 4 times the volume of tap water and discard.
To each gallon (or 4 litres) of bath water, around 0.6 mL of formalin should be added to get the desired dosage.
Have a second bucket of tank water ready to transfer the fish to when the treatment is complete or the fish shows signs of stress. The second bucket allows the fish to be "rinsed" before it is placed back into the tank.
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I cried wolf my boy looks good.
Let's hope it holds up. Looking for any symptoms and seeing nothing. Should I look for something other than. Pale, heavy breathing, spots, white film on gills?
Let's hope it holds up. Looking for any symptoms and seeing nothing. Should I look for something other than. Pale, heavy breathing, spots, white film on gills?
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Glad it was a false alarm. The symptoms listed pretty much cover it. Sometimes early on the fish will exhibit ich like symptoms like rubbing.
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