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longnose hawk would be my guess, if it was big enough :) Wrasses.. depends on what you have stocked.. lots of different wrasses (and I haven't kept up with your current stocking list :()
 
Damn longnose hawk is awefully small to be taking down a cleaner shrimp, but Sherman was saying that it could be the culprit too. My wrasses are: Golden Rhomboid, Bluesided Sctott's Fairy, and Mysteri. I know they eat pods and mysid, but cleaner shrimp? Seems doubtful to me. The question is, would they check out like all the snails did because of the dinos, or the water quality that led to the dinos? I have read that dinos are actually toxic to snails, and maybe that's the case for shrimp too.
 
the only one in that list that is even suspect for taking a shrimp down would be the mysteri one (and you all know how I feel about them, and 6-lines, so I won't go down that rant-road again this time :)).

The long nose can take a shrimp and batter it into the rocks to kill and de-shell it. So it is a strong possibility. higher probability to lose peppermints to one than a cleaner, I would think.. but still possible.
 
I already lost about 50 peppermints...damn, and I love that longnose. Anything you guys know of that would be a good cleaner for the tangs and not get eaten? I thought about the neon blues but I am afraid they would just be an expensive snack as well.
 
we have a cleaner wrasse that we have had for going on 3 years now. There is a species that is not an obligate parasite eater (NOT the one from Hawaii, IIRC). Ours eats flakes, pellets, mysyus, arcti-pods, cyclopeez and also cleans all of our fish. There is an article that I saw some time ago about them, but their general stance was that they all should be left in the ocean (but again, we have had ours for a couple of weeks shy of 3 years).
 
the reason for leaving them in the ocean was that the reefs need them. But I would still possibly consider one. It would have a better chance of surving in my tank than most. I wonder if anyone is breeding them yet?
 
That I do not know... There are a couple of DIBS breeders in our area (for coral and inverts), but I had not heard anything about cleaner wrasses...
 
Well I was admiring my reef whiile having a Snow Cap. Just checking out how clear the water is, how clean the rocks are, and how nice the corals look...everything is nice and fluffed up.

I noticed the PLTA was looking a bit larger too, and as I was watching it, it suddenly took off like a frisbee...seriously it must have sensed me watching, and spun off across the tank.

It had gotten down to about the size of a coffee cup saucer before I started feeding it a little shrimp about once a week, and now that it has Sherman's Sebae Clown, it has grown up to the size of a dinner plate. I was a bit surprised at how big it is now...at least there aren't a bunch of corals for it to sting! :D
 
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Not really. I was so impressed with the one I saw in Steve Weast's tank, that I found this one and introduced it to my system. They behave much differently than the BTAs. The only advantage I have is that my lighting it so intense, there is little reason for anemones to wander around. My GBTAs NEVER move. The PLTA however, will stay in one spot for a couple of months, and then suddenly take flight. It will cruise around the tank tasting eveything. Luckily it has only annoyed my my corals and hasn't actually killed any that I am aware of.

So I had a hard time with this one in that it doesn't eat the same stuff the BTAs do. It got smaller and smaller and lost its color. Then someone posted to feed it shrimp, which never would have crossed my mind since shrimp will walk inside the damn thing any time they please. Once I started feeding it small pieces of shrimp, it plumped back up and regained its color. It also stayed fairly loyal to its location, which just happened to be right in front.

Then Steve came by for a vist, and I asked him how his was doing. He told me he had to get rid of it because it was too much of a PITA trying to keep it under control. :rolleyes: Anyway, I have more intense lighting than he does, so maybe that's in my favor.

Then Sherman gave me the Sebae Clown, and after some intense discussion with the maroons, it took up residence in the PLTA. That seems to have helped out a lot, and then yesterday, off it goes. No warning, just suddenly took flight. And it really is about the size of a frisbee. If I had a mature reef with lots of large colonies, it would have stung them all the way across the tank.
 
:lol: not on your life!

Actually, I could take a long shot, but my camera is at the store. And the tank is looking so good right now...
 
It's a long way to the Left Coast from Montreal! When I get my store squared away, I am going to invest in a much better camera system, but it will be a while.
 
Are you kidding? It's too damn cold up there for my white butt. I would drop dead between the car and the front door.
 
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