OK! Enough chat...Starting a 1000g+ Reef

well when they get bad, let me know. I have an elaborate but sure cure! :eek2:

Catherine: Honestly tht is a question for a marine scientist. I hear a lot of conflicting views on this with some saying that corals need fish waste to survive, and others saying that fish waste increases nutrients in the system and will cause corals to decline.

The answer is probably somehwere in between, but since there is no lack of fish waste in our captive systems, I would lean towards trying to eliminate whatever waste we can, hence a variety of husbandry methods, not the least of which is strong skimming, and/or well balanced reefs that otherwise process the waste.

As far as coloration specifically is concerned, when I have such an issue I examine water quality/ORP, etc. and the amount of light the coral is getting. I just moved a couple corals tonight because their color was not what it should be. And because I keep a fairly clean system, this is where my attention is focused when trying to get the best coloration.

So I move the coral around until I find a good combo of light and flow. Usually this leaves behind some that has encrusted onto neighboring rocks, and often I end up with another colony that for some reason, does quite well in the original location.

Also please note that my mentor gave me some sage advice:

"Some corals will just not do well in your system, so rather than fixate on those, work with ones that will thrive in it."
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12627335#post12627335 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
well when they get bad, let me know. I have an elaborate but sure cure! :eek2:

Does it involve a blow torch? :hammer:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12603201#post12603201 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bax
J

I buy GAC by the pallet for water treatment systems and can't bring myself to put it in my reef!

I am going to try your 24 hr test using my DD PO4 test kit just for S&Gs.

Well? What happened?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12627464#post12627464 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
nope. just lighter fluid, a razor, and a ball-peen hammer.

What's the razor for? :confused:
 
So you shave you arms first, then use the lighter fluid, finishing finally with the hammer? Is shaving to prevent your arm hairs from singing when you inevitably make sparks with the hammer and ignite the fluid?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12627488#post12627488 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
Well? What happened?

Thanks for the reminder, I got as far as two cups of dry GAC. Maybe later today I'll top em off with RO and test it in the next day or so.
 
you shave one "arm", soak the other one in lighter fluid, light it on fire, and when they run out into the clearing, you smash 'em with the ball peen hammer. That's in the 1962 USMC handbook right?
 
After thinking about this, it sounds like just keeping the crabs would be a LOT less painful.
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12603201#post12603201 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bax
J

I buy GAC by the pallet for water treatment systems and can't bring myself to put it in my reef!

I am going to try your 24 hr test using my DD PO4 test kit just for S&Gs.

SO the results are in.

I took an equal measure of Marineland Black Diamond ( the only brand of GAC I've ever used in an SW tank) and the stuff I buy for water treatment systems by the pallet, Weststates AC830 and soaked them in RO/DI water for about 24 hours.

Each sample got a single rinse with the RO water before soaking. I can tell you that the Black Diamond was filthy compared to the bulk product which barely produced any fines. That could be do in part to the fact that the Black Diamond is ground to a much finer size than the bulk product. The average particle size in the bulk GAC is easily twice the size of the largest pieces of the Black Diamond. I supposed particle size is not critical given that our primary use of GAC in a Reef is absorption of organics? At any rate I filtered the sample water through floss before testing to be sure no particles were in there to mess up the results.

Anyway, using a D-D test kit, (wish I had a Hanna low range meter, it's on my wish list) the plain RO/DI water, Black Diamond water and the Weststates AC830 water all tested zero on the kit.

Now I know these kits, even the D-D kits are crap, but, it does indicate that there is no real significant difference and I've been spending lots of unnecessary cash at Dr Foster & Smith for Black Diamond Gac when I have about 1,000 pounds of perfectly good GAC sitting right here. :rolleyes:
 
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send some over here! :D

BTW, I was told by someone in the carbon business that the fines are an indication that the carbon used is not pure, but some blend of pure (virgin) and re-cycled carbon.

Some carbons in the hobby are supposedly only 10% virgin material.
 
Wow! 10% now that's crazy!

Heck! I am using the bulk from now on! It is 100% virgin, no question. And, it rinses in seconds, I have only a small amount of the Black Diamond left and I think I'll donate it to by Bro in Law's pond. Kind iof ironic since I've been giving him the free bulk stuff thinking I was doing the right thing by my reef!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12645987#post12645987 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bax
SO the results are in.

I took an equal measure of Marineland Black Diamond ( the only brand of GAC I've ever used in an SW tank) and the stuff I buy for water treatment systems by the pallet, Weststates AC830 and soaked them in RO/DI water for about 24 hours.


Did you stir the water before you tested, or just see what you got from a water sample? How much water did you soak it in? I think I'll try the same with what I use.
 
which one do you use Marc? Not Marineland?

I did tests both stirred and not stirred, and they were very similar results. If you stir, then you definitely want to strain through a very fine net, cheesecloth, etc.
 
I'm using something that I got in Houston 1.5 years ago. I bought 50 lbs in a massive black bag, and rebagged it into 11 or 12 one-gallon ziplock bags. I use about 2 to 3 cups a week in a Phosban Reactor.
 
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