Olasana Lagoon: High Energy SPS Nano Build Thread

Chris, this looks GREAT!

I once had three 400 watt halides over my 180 and superior growth. Why not over a 20! I bet colors going to be insane!

As far as the corals go, they look perfectly healthy to me. Thats got to be one of the best porites worm rocks I've ever seen.

I also think that everyones tacky rock wall tanks look terrible and I prefer a very open tank with much less live rock than the average reefer. No need for all that crap. Rock walls are for noobs.

And for those of you that have an ignorant streak - Galleon is NO NOOB by any means. Not anymore of a noob than I am. He's probably been in this hobby longer than most of you have. I personally bear witness to that.

So knock off the negativity and either ride along and enjoy or go away.

Looking forward to more! :D
 
MammothReefer said:
I feel like you are pushing a lot of extremes here which are making people question if you are an eccentric experimenter, or simply a misinformed/inexperienced reefer.
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I will keep everyone guessing on that point for now ;)

In plain black and white, you trying to run a SPS system bare bottom, rockless 20L with no skimmer, sump, ato, dosing/reactor, and no cycle time, under a 400w 6500 lamp.
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The tank has been up since the end of November with just the Porites rock. There is an autotopoff AND a skimmer. Adding the branch rock (which was filthy, but I wanted it), caused a mini cycle.
 
Need to set it up the way u like it the only concern I would have is your big wave on a 20 tank with thin glass! Watch your electrical on the floor? Shoot pics when grow our starts! Chef
 
Hey Galleon!

Sweet tank! I like it, and the thinking behind it. I'd stick some really shallow water species like gemmifera, humilis, etc. in there and watch what happens. Would be awesome if you could get the tight growth like you see in wild acros.

Oh, and FWIW my Oct 2001 TOTM was a 40 gal breeder with 840W of lighting. 400W over a 20 is just fine. Too bad RC lost its writeup. You can see it in Mike Paletta's Ultimate Marine Aquariums book though. Ahh...the days of free dorm electricity :)

Hey fishinchick! Nobody seems to look at "Join Date" when they rail on someone's lack of experience ;)

Best of luck!
Tim
 
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fishinchick said:
And for those of you that have an ignorant streak - Galleon is NO NOOB by any means. Not anymore of a noob than I am. He's probably been in this hobby longer than most of you have. I personally bear witness to that.
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Hahah, well I guess the cat's out of the bag.
 
Also worth noting is the ratio of posts/time on RC of commentators ;)

Along similar lines, I've been pondering a reef pond lately, with major wave action from MP60s, to do the same thing. A key factor I think is tides though, which nobody ever accounts for in a reef tank. I want to have the ability to lower the water level automatically to keep growth tight at the highest tips, then raise it up to keep it from flattening out into a blob like it does in a normal tank when sps reach the surface. This is really material for another thread, and I don't want to hijack. You just got me thinking about it again...
 
therman said:
Also worth noting is the ratio of posts/time on RC of commentators ;)

Along similar lines, I've been pondering a reef pond lately, with major wave action from MP60s, to do the same thing. A key factor I think is tides though, which nobody ever accounts for in a reef tank. I want to have the ability to lower the water level automatically to keep growth tight at the highest tips, then raise it up to keep it from flattening out into a blob like it does in a normal tank when sps reach the surface. This is really material for another thread, and I don't want to hijack. You just got me thinking about it again...
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Hijack it!
My home tank cycles that way due to a powerhead on a timer in the overflow pumping back to the tank. 1/4 inch plus 'tide'. The SPS tips flatten out anyway over time and start to grow algae - its just what happens when corals reach the surface, even if that surface rises and lowers. Also check out Simon Garratts tank....tides and a plunger.
 
therman said:
Hey fishinchick! Nobody seems to look at "Join Date" when they rail on someone's lack of experience ;)
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join date and post count mean nothing, in terms of actually of experience just how much time you spend on a forum. (on a side note some of us also may not have been able to keep using our original accounts ;) ) I'm not saying I'm some reefing guru by any means but your RC stats, and how you take care of your tank have nothing to do with each other.
 
Well, I lost one of the frags over night. It was a small break off that wasn't looking good when I got it. But it was lying in the sand and practically free, so I snatched it anyway. The other 3 are looking great.
 
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Frankly I am disgusted with your rampant disregard for convention and band-wagonism. You'd think you had actually been to the South Pacific looking at coral reefs or something, with that attitude. Also clearly you have no background in either fluid dynamics or chemistry. Horrifying. They should ban you.
 
sjfishguy said:
I have always done with minimal liverock and open scaping, even before it was in vogue as it seems to be now. But that is not minimal, that is basically NONE. Unfortunately I think this tank will "progress" into a mess before long, but I hope you prove me wrong. You need more biofiltration. Good luck.
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That is exactly what I was thinking and was trying to help guide the OP in a better direction, but he got all upset and thought I was bashing.
 
There are no fish to add waste to the water. As long as he doesnt overly feed the sps he should be ok. Theres little waste going in so very little waste has to be processed.

My only gripe is the 6500k bulb...maybe youre taste but when I ran them, not my taste. Other than that...good luck on the tank. May the reef gods keep you safe.
 
vitz said:
It never ceases to amaze me how the people most ignorant about lr and biofiltration are always the most adamant about having to overload tanks w/ live rock in order to achieve 'proper bio-filtration'.

Great tank Chris,kewl wave oscillation, and I'm sure w/your knowledge the tank will not stop the ignorami from spreading mythinformation, but it might at least give them pause to consider just how much learning they still need to do. ;)
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I am not one to over load my tank with live rock. In my 75g I have maybe 40-50lbs. Live rock in a reef tank does nearly all the bio filtration. Not only that but it brings in so much life and food sources that are important to a healthy reef.
Here is a pic of my tank for LR amount. This is the most that is needed, I have more that is needed for filtration needs but the rock work is done to my taste.
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Even if a person does not want much LR in the tank most will put LR in the sump to make up for it. Just my 2 cents like it or dont, just trying to be insightful.
 
allsps40 said:
I am not one to over load my tank with live rock. In my 75g I have maybe 40-50lbs. Live rock in a reef tank does nearly all the bio filtration. Not only that but it brings in so much life and food sources that are important to a healthy reef.
Here is a pic of my tank for LR amount. This is the most that is needed, I have more that is needed for filtration needs but the rock work is done to my taste.
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Even if a person does not want much LR in the tank most will put LR in the sump to make up for it. Just my 2 cents like it or dont, just trying to be insightful.
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I am wondering how you are determining how much live rock is 'needed' and what life and food sources that rock brings to a healthy reef, and if you have any references to support those ideas? Thanks!
 
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