small alien
The fungus is among us.
I also want to second that Steve is one of our most important resources on this board. And if you know his posts, you know his real concern is for the fish, not for being Mr. Righty Pants.
One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish...Complete My Stocking List With Me!
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Thanks. That is accurate. I actually have a real life believe it or not. My concerns, by the way, were NOT on stocking level, although it may be a touch high.
Reefing Newbie
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I am going to have to say that you should let your tank grow. You will be suprised at how full your tank will look with what you have. When the tang and butterfly grow to their size you will see what people mean when they say that fish need room! The butterfly will reach 8" when/if it lives to full maturity, and the tomini tang will grow to 6"(according to liveaquaria). If anything, I would only do the nano gobies. This would be because they are small, and also because most will be swimming around the bottom and not disturbing any of the open water swimmers. If I were you I would stay as is. Listen to steve on this as he is the expert, he has guided me straight for the most part(still kinda stubborn on my end 
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)small alien
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Steve, if you have enough time away from your "real life", some of us do want to know what you think the issues are with this stock list. For desert, perhaps you could share your thoughts. Thanks in advance.
gohstwrighter
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with it all in a 75 gallon it wood more greatly depend on how much structer and filtration you have for your fish.if its a ressan reef with openings insde for the fish to hide in it you may gitaway with more fish . watchman gobies /cromies /bassalets /and jaw fish could be something to look at thay all stay small and most arent agresave.but thats just my 2 cents.
Borchers
Reefer Who needs Help!!!
I would say a Blue Spot Jaw Fish would make an excellent addition to your system. How deep is you substrate. They are beautiful and are a bottom dewller. My top 3 fish. Also maybe a beautiful pair of clowns. Theses are damsels but are also compatible with your whole list. Last would be a Blenny of some type. Like little puppies. But most important with this list they are all small and compatible with your list.
First of all, I always advocate a plan, then analysis, perhaps getting feedback, then execution of the plan. It is really rough trying to remove fish. When you have sensitive fish, and the Copperband is one even though it is an Aussie one, it is best to plan around that fish. Copperbands tend to graze on copepods, as does a mystery wrasse, so diminishing copepods in a tank would seem to be less than ideal. Also it is highly likely that the mystery wrasse may intimidate you firefish.
However, if Ted is happy with what he has, I think that is great.
I am going to have to say that you should let your tank grow. You will be suprised at how full your tank will look with what you have. When the tang and butterfly grow to their size you will see what people mean when they say that fish need room! The butterfly will reach 8" when/if it lives to full maturity, and the tomini tang will grow to 6"(according to liveaquaria). If anything, I would only do the nano gobies. This would be because they are small, and also because most will be swimming around the bottom and not disturbing any of the open water swimmers. If I were you I would stay as is. Listen to steve on this as he is the expert, he has guided me straight for the most part(still kinda stubborn on my end
Good advice. If you will have your brother post in the Check out your fish thread, I will provide an analysis for him. :wavehand:
There are different ways to plan fish for your tank. You can create a fish list with fish that probably won't kill each other OR you can create a stocking like Paul did (small alien) where they are really tightly coordinated.
His stocking list: Current Tank Info: 75 mixed reef. M/F OSFF, M/F Leopards, M/F/F Scooters, M/F Naked Clowns, Green-Banded Goby, Banded Pipe, Tailspot Blenny, Purple Firefish, Canary Wrasse, Tanaka's Possum, Hector's Goby, Royal Gramma, Abrolhos Jaw, Priolepis sp. Goby, Matted Filefish has lots of sensitive fish but they all play well together. The only thing I would have done differently is no clownfish. (sorry Paul, I am not calling you out)
His stocking list: Current Tank Info: 75 mixed reef. M/F OSFF, M/F Leopards, M/F/F Scooters, M/F Naked Clowns, Green-Banded Goby, Banded Pipe, Tailspot Blenny, Purple Firefish, Canary Wrasse, Tanaka's Possum, Hector's Goby, Royal Gramma, Abrolhos Jaw, Priolepis sp. Goby, Matted Filefish has lots of sensitive fish but they all play well together. The only thing I would have done differently is no clownfish. (sorry Paul, I am not calling you out)
small alien
The fungus is among us.
So far so good wih the clowns even though I understand the potential for issues. They have now spawned and still are relatively peaceful. I have seen the female nudge my male leopard when he gets too close but they stay right in their nem all the time and luckily it's at one end of the tank rather than in the middle. I could be totally off but I have the feeling that because my nakeds are so heavily hybridized by ORA they are more peaceful/dumb. Having removed them from my 20 way back when (actually because of Steve's advice at the time I think they'd be pretty easy to catch if I had to. Nothing like removing a wrasse, fire fish, etc. Cheers.
I think they'd be pretty easy to catch if I had to. Nothing like removing a wrasse, fire fish, etc. Cheers.
So far so good wih the clowns even though I understand the potential for issues. They have now spawned and still are relatively peaceful. I have seen the female nudge my male leopard when he gets too close but they stay right in their nem all the time and luckily it's at one end of the tank rather than in the middle. I could be totally off but I have the feeling that because my nakeds are so heavily hybridized by ORA they are more peaceful/dumb. Having removed them from my 20 way back when (actually because of Steve's advice at the time
Spawning behavior is fun. Do you plan to capture and raise? Catching clowns is very easy. I have learned to scoop them up in one hand or a tuperware container. But keep an eye on them as there is potential . . . .
curlykid
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lol i must have had a wrasse-clownfish hybrid. haha i agree though, you have to really consider everything when you get a new fish. my stock list, and my future stock list are molded from steve's, and other expert's advice. there's nothing better in this hobby than research, and a helping hand. i'm sorry guys, i've been so blatantly rude lately, urgghh. to the OP, Think a while about your fish, try to get fish that don't have conflicting behaviors or diets. It will help you in the long run.
small alien
The fungus is among us.
I haven't tried to capture the spawn. I've heard anecdotally that no one has had luck raising their naked fry because of the very intense hybridization. I do want to try my hand at raising a batch of clownfish but I may get a pair of a more reliable, less hybridized type specifically for the purpose.
Reefing Newbie
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Okay, I will have him repost there when he gets back home. I am learning lots here and reading your posts have really helped! I really hope to improve communication if at all possible. Steve you are definantly the expert here on this site, along with lots of others, but you post more it seems :rollface:
SkullV
They Got My Number
Short video of the tank/fish now so you can see the scape. The firefish doesn't back down at all to the mystery wrasse in fact it is the other way around. The only fish the firefish steers clear of is the Copperband.
Plenty of caves in the rockwork for everyone to have their own spot completly out of view of any other cave.
In HD if you want it:
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Plenty of caves in the rockwork for everyone to have their own spot completly out of view of any other cave.
In HD if you want it:
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