Hugo, I just got the ORA list directly from John. The prices he has are actually awesome because the shipment are already factored in. The ultra clams are a definite steal. I will likely order just a few corals tomorrow and I will give the deposit directly to him since I am going there. I would have purchased more with those prices if not for my next paycheck not coming until the end of August. I'm sorry if my previous comments appeared to be taking business away from John. I wasn't trying to lure any customers away from him and it wasn't about store loyalty and which lfs is better, etc. Sorry if i made him look bad. That was never my intention. In my comments I was just explaining what's best for my situation since I tend to buy everything in this hobby in bulk most of the time to save some money. I am even considering buying a palette of reef crystals just to get a discounted price. Despite our expensive "hobby" I am still a frugal accountant in many ways. FYI, you can look at my tank and I can honestly tell you that 98 percent of those corals came from YR- none dipped or quarantined of course. Regards, Glenn