I have never tried trellising sweet potatoes. It might be hard because the do not hold on to anything by themselves. I just let them grow wherever they want and plant around them. This way I get shade on the ground around the roots of taller plants, which does two things, keeps the soil cooler and keeps water in the soil longer. They do not strangle other plants like vining squash, pumpkins, beans etc. I have some planted this year around tomatoes, under the summer pole beans, and under a fig tree.
OT: any Reefer-Gardeners around here?!?- post your GARDENING TIPS/QUESTS here
- Thread starter K' Family Reef
- Start date
K' Family Reef
New member
thanks... think we might try that
my wife really likes the sweet potatoes so plan to get a few this weekend and perhaps start them out in containers... she liked the way those sweet potatoes looked in that picture i posted (photo from scottsdale)...
you sound like you might have quite a few plantings - any images of your garden?
:thumbsup:
regards
K' Family Reef
New member
Overview
Papaya plants are one of the more challenging tropical plants to grow in the Phoenix area. They are susceptible to freezing and root rot in the winter, and require just the right balance of sun and shade in the summer. Papayas are also very picky about the method and frequency of watering and can be burned easily by chemical fertilizers. Getting enough plants to survive to get adequate cross pollination can also be a challenge. With all of this being said, keep in mind that when papayas fruit they fruit a lot, so one good season can make it all worth while.
(taken from phoenixtropicals website)
sounds like a challenge to grow!
Darlene what was your neighbor doing to get theirs to grow to that size?
regards
Papaya plants are one of the more challenging tropical plants to grow in the Phoenix area. They are susceptible to freezing and root rot in the winter, and require just the right balance of sun and shade in the summer. Papayas are also very picky about the method and frequency of watering and can be burned easily by chemical fertilizers. Getting enough plants to survive to get adequate cross pollination can also be a challenge. With all of this being said, keep in mind that when papayas fruit they fruit a lot, so one good season can make it all worth while.
(taken from phoenixtropicals website)
sounds like a challenge to grow!
Darlene what was your neighbor doing to get theirs to grow to that size?
regards
OceanLyons
Active member
I'm not sure how she did it. That was before my husband and I don't like papaya so I never asked her about it. I do know that she was very proud of it and liberally watered it daily with a hose. Drove my grandmother crazy. We lived below this lady in a condo. The water would come splashing down on my grandma's patio furniture. When the lady moved, my grandmother just let it die. Now I realize how sad it was to let it die. It was several years old.
The ground in which it was planted in was fairly cool (grass and giant roses) and very fertile (dark). It was tucked in a corner of a two-story building and received south and east exposure. In the summer, the temperatures of the walls on the north and west side of the papaya would have been quite high.
The ground in which it was planted in was fairly cool (grass and giant roses) and very fertile (dark). It was tucked in a corner of a two-story building and received south and east exposure. In the summer, the temperatures of the walls on the north and west side of the papaya would have been quite high.
I have slowly turned my yard into an edible paradise. I grow food year round now and almost always have something ready to eat out there. Currently I am growing 2 types of sweet potatoes (they are acutally part of the lilly family not actual potatoes) red and gold potatoes, pumpkins, zuchinni, yellow crookneck sqaush, butternut squash, spaghetti squash, pattypan squash, 3 different tomatoes, blackberries, dewberries, blueberries, strawberries, gourds, chard, eggplant, various herbs, asparagus beans, bannanas, watermellons, caneloupes, onions, grapes, pomegranite, loquat, apples, pears, peaches, plums, mandarin oranges, grapefruit, avacado, mango, lemons, chickens (for eggs and fertilizer), and a bunch of flowers. I kinda started slowly in the last two years and then it grows on you! Litteraly! The plan for the fall is to get a good size greenhouse and grow summer crops in it during the winter and then shade it and use it for winter crops in the summer. I do have pics but I can't figure out how to load them into the post like everyone else is doing.
K' Family Reef
New member
sounds like you might have a farm?
know what you mean about how it "grows on you"
would look forward to seeing some photos of what you have growing!
:thumbsup:
what we do is load all pics to PHOTOBUCKET.com
actually we download to the computer first (off digital camera) then upload to photobucket... (if you dont already know all of this) - its a free webhosting site for posting photos... no cost whatsoever and its easy to work w/ too (if you open an acct w/ photob and need any help then just let me know - glad to help!)... once all photos uploaded to photob (and can be uploaded all at once instead doing it one by one if there is a group of photos)... then under each photo is a direct link that can be copy/pasted to RC... as in just pasted right on to where you type in the message...
there might even be a better/easier way
but that is just what we have been doing so far...
regards
K' Family Reef
New member
hmmm maybe the woman that lived there once upon a time...
holds the 'secret'
since this thread
(although we were winding down some of our 'gardening' efforts and moving in from outside to start reefing again
)... now we have several new ideas on things we want to do... like for starters probably going this weekend to start an herb garden and stop buying herbs all the time... go by sprouts and pick up some sweet potatoes... then start looking for some of these flowers (ryan), trees (magnolia!) etc etc... or atleast figure out places where they can grow in our yard!:thumbsup:
regards
OceanLyons
Active member
Re: the magnolia
This is my second one. The first one died due to salt burn. Now, I don't fertilize it at all. I used gypsum in the potting mix, and do a long deep soaks with some gypsum in the water to help leach out the salt. So far, so good.
This is my second one. The first one died due to salt burn. Now, I don't fertilize it at all. I used gypsum in the potting mix, and do a long deep soaks with some gypsum in the water to help leach out the salt. So far, so good.
K' Family Reef
New member
Darlene
good to know - thanks!
might have to try that gypsum too.
one thing we started doing is using POND WATER
to water all our houseplants and any of the delicate outdoor plants too (hibiscus especially)... since doing that we have gone from not being able to keep houseplants alive to having our houseplants 'thrive' w/ no fertilizer... we just have some simple ponds (no filtration - dont mind the 'green' water) w/ pumps running... the water is real 'green' from algae, etc... and again makes great water for the plants!... usually use the pond pump to take out about 5gals at a time.
regards
good to know - thanks!
might have to try that gypsum too.
one thing we started doing is using POND WATER
to water all our houseplants and any of the delicate outdoor plants too (hibiscus especially)... since doing that we have gone from not being able to keep houseplants alive to having our houseplants 'thrive' w/ no fertilizer... we just have some simple ponds (no filtration - dont mind the 'green' water) w/ pumps running... the water is real 'green' from algae, etc... and again makes great water for the plants!... usually use the pond pump to take out about 5gals at a time.
regards
By using the pond water you are actually fertilizing your plants a small amount each time you water. Pond water will contain nitrates and other dissolved minerals which plants need. The other thing that will happen is the PH of your pond water is lower than the tap water which will help the majority of the plants growing in your garden. High PH soil along with high PH water hinders the uptake of many minerals (particularly phosphate and iron) that plants need to grow well. The salt senstive plants do not do well with chemical fertilizers because that type of fertilizer is mostly suspended in types of metalic salts which we have too much of in the desert already. If you where to fertilize with fish emulsions or other natural types of biodegraded fertilizers you will not run into as many salt burn issues. Gypsum for some reason binds with these salts and especially calcium and carries it down with the water below the rootzones of plants duriing deep waterings. That is why your salt senstive plants are doing so well using gypsum treatments. Another thing to try with salt sensitive plants is to water down to a depth of at least 3 feet each time you water. Shallow waterings will slowly build up the salts in the soil as the water evaporates near the surface and leaves the dissolved salts behind. Long slow deep waterings are the best for those types of plants when they are grown down here in the desert soils.
K' Family Reef
New member
jgrog76
thanks for your input - its very informative and appreciated!
:thumbsup:
yesterday we purchased some tomatoes and peppers
and our daughter has already picked everything off the plants... so not only do we have our dog (that likes to trample everything down) but now we will have to figure a way around keeping our daughter out of everything... might use chicken wire/posts around where we plant our veges... we have the same problem w/ our container citrus and the lemon tree that is in the ground... she likes to pick off all the fruit she can reach!
glad the monsoon season is upon us
gives us a chance to get everything together in our garden (everything on drip system etc) before the really hot/dry days of summer approach!... last year i know that on the rainy days - they really messed up our gardening efforts... thinking that bec it was raining then we didnt need to water or as much... only to have stuff dry out/die etc... quickly learned to water as usual (unless real heavy rain).
thanks everyone for their input so far
and for the photos!... gardening seems to be as 'technical' as reefing and parallels in many ways (science behind it etc)...
lets see today????
water change (2 w/c that is - reef water taken out goes into the fowlr - bad reef water=still good for fowlr!) and reefing... or plant fresh herbs/gardening... time to get it all done???...
or -
we are also shopping around for puppies too ???
my wife has a friend w/ a PUG that she just adores... have never been around them or know anything about pugs... we already have a large breed dog... and originally we were going to look for a schnauzer (which our family has had many of over the years :thumbsup: ) to go along w/ it... so now we are undecided... anyone familiar w/ pugs?... we looked at some yesterday but dont think they were pugs (as advertised)... although 'cute' puppies perhaps they should have been called 'chugs'... as in chihuahua/pug mixes ......ultimately we intend to breed whatever we get and make it a small 'business' for our daughters to 'manage' (website etc)... and well moving in that direction w/ reefing too!... a 'family' business and something for the girls to get 'experience' with as they grow!
regards
thanks for your input - its very informative and appreciated!
:thumbsup:
yesterday we purchased some tomatoes and peppers
and our daughter has already picked everything off the plants... so not only do we have our dog (that likes to trample everything down) but now we will have to figure a way around keeping our daughter out of everything... might use chicken wire/posts around where we plant our veges... we have the same problem w/ our container citrus and the lemon tree that is in the ground... she likes to pick off all the fruit she can reach!
glad the monsoon season is upon us
gives us a chance to get everything together in our garden (everything on drip system etc) before the really hot/dry days of summer approach!... last year i know that on the rainy days - they really messed up our gardening efforts... thinking that bec it was raining then we didnt need to water or as much... only to have stuff dry out/die etc... quickly learned to water as usual (unless real heavy rain).
thanks everyone for their input so far
and for the photos!... gardening seems to be as 'technical' as reefing and parallels in many ways (science behind it etc)...
lets see today????
water change (2 w/c that is - reef water taken out goes into the fowlr - bad reef water=still good for fowlr!) and reefing... or plant fresh herbs/gardening... time to get it all done???...
or -
we are also shopping around for puppies too ???
my wife has a friend w/ a PUG that she just adores... have never been around them or know anything about pugs... we already have a large breed dog... and originally we were going to look for a schnauzer (which our family has had many of over the years :thumbsup: ) to go along w/ it... so now we are undecided... anyone familiar w/ pugs?... we looked at some yesterday but dont think they were pugs (as advertised)... although 'cute' puppies perhaps they should have been called 'chugs'... as in chihuahua/pug mixes
......ultimately we intend to breed whatever we get and make it a small 'business' for our daughters to 'manage' (website etc)... and well moving in that direction w/ reefing too!... a 'family' business and something for the girls to get 'experience' with as they grow!regards
Last edited:
K' Family Reef
New member
Chris K
anymore photos of your pond/garden?...
we mainly have our ponds for plants
which is why we dont mind the 'green' water (plus we want the nutrient rich pond water for our yard/house plants)... ultimately want them to be completely full cannas, hyacinth, toro, water lilies, etc... we have mosquito fish in all 3 of them (multiplying like crazy!) and the pond on the patio (in shade) also has some attractive goldfish which have been in there since last year and seem to be thriving too... no koi as obviously what we have is way too small.
regards
NaClH20NMYVEIN
Red Dragons!
Here are a few cool trees I planted over the past 1.5 years
Silk Floss http://tree-species.blogspot.com/2008/05/silk-floss-ceiba-speciosa.html
Royal Poinciana http://mgonline.com/articles/royalp.aspx
Coral Tree http://tree-species.blogspot.com/2008/06/coral-tree-erythrina-lysistemon.html
African Tulip Tree http://images.google.com/images?hl=...&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title
Chinese Parasol http://www.tytyga.com/product/Chinese+Parasol+Tree
I was luckly enough to have a 35+ foot jacaranda and a 20 foot magnolia tree already in the yard when we moved in. In addition to the list above I also added some more common tree like ficus, tipu, and a bird of paradise tree.
I'm still trying to track down one final tree.
the Palo Piojo http://arboretum.arizona.edu/taxa/Brongniartia_alamosana.html
The UofA campus has some amazing trees if you every down there!
Silk Floss http://tree-species.blogspot.com/2008/05/silk-floss-ceiba-speciosa.html
Royal Poinciana http://mgonline.com/articles/royalp.aspx
Coral Tree http://tree-species.blogspot.com/2008/06/coral-tree-erythrina-lysistemon.html
African Tulip Tree http://images.google.com/images?hl=...&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title
Chinese Parasol http://www.tytyga.com/product/Chinese+Parasol+Tree
I was luckly enough to have a 35+ foot jacaranda and a 20 foot magnolia tree already in the yard when we moved in. In addition to the list above I also added some more common tree like ficus, tipu, and a bird of paradise tree.
I'm still trying to track down one final tree.
the Palo Piojo http://arboretum.arizona.edu/taxa/Brongniartia_alamosana.html
The UofA campus has some amazing trees if you every down there!
30reef
New member
Hey Ryan, have you had any luck with the floss silk and coral trees? Are there any mature specimens in the valley? I have been tempted to plant them but I think it is too arid.
The SD Zoo has just about the best collection of trees anywhere. The climate there is perfect for growing just about anything they want. Anyone ever seen the Moreton Bay Fig tree across from the entrance to the zoo behind the museum, it's really big.
Another place to see any type of tree you want is The Huntington, in Pasadena. It's several hundred acres divided into specific categories, the art museums on the grounds are worthy of mentioning also.
Anyone ever had any luck growing a Bismarki Nobilis palm to a large size here? I have one that has been in the ground for almost 2 years now, but can't seem to keep a whole head of leaves on it. I am not new to palms, in Cali I had an extensive collection with about 30 species including a Bismarki. I see them once in a while around town that are good sized, but every time mine opens up a new leaf, either the wind damages it or it's time for cold weather. Bismarkis are relatively rare and are absolutely gorgeous when healthy. The leaves can get 5-6 feet across on even a small tree and are sometimes blue or purple.
In the meantime, I trimmed a Palo Brea that is in my yard today and I have to tend to my puncture wounds now...
The SD Zoo has just about the best collection of trees anywhere. The climate there is perfect for growing just about anything they want. Anyone ever seen the Moreton Bay Fig tree across from the entrance to the zoo behind the museum, it's really big.
Another place to see any type of tree you want is The Huntington, in Pasadena. It's several hundred acres divided into specific categories, the art museums on the grounds are worthy of mentioning also.
Anyone ever had any luck growing a Bismarki Nobilis palm to a large size here? I have one that has been in the ground for almost 2 years now, but can't seem to keep a whole head of leaves on it. I am not new to palms, in Cali I had an extensive collection with about 30 species including a Bismarki. I see them once in a while around town that are good sized, but every time mine opens up a new leaf, either the wind damages it or it's time for cold weather. Bismarkis are relatively rare and are absolutely gorgeous when healthy. The leaves can get 5-6 feet across on even a small tree and are sometimes blue or purple.
In the meantime, I trimmed a Palo Brea that is in my yard today and I have to tend to my puncture wounds now...
K' Family Reef
New member
http://images.google.com/images?hl=...result&cd=1&q=Bismarckia+Nobilis+palm&spell=1
Named after Prince Otto Von Bismarck, the first German Chancellor, this Fan Palm from Madagascar is known for its medium growth and large bluish-green fronds. This palm is very hardy and loves the heat or coastal climate. The Bismarckia Nobilis is very similar to the Mexican Blue Palm, although, the leaves in the Bismarckia will get much larger than that of the Mexican Blue.
mexican blue palm
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=mexican blue palm&sa=N&tab=wi&um=1
http://ag.arizona.edu/pima/gardening/aridplants/Brahea_armata.html
when first saw the picture the Bismackia looked like something more common...
but it seems what i have seen might be this mexican blue palm... have noticed a residential landscape w/ this palm along where we ride our bikes.
btw here is a great link to UofA - cooperative extension - master gardener program
http://ag.arizona.edu/pima/gardening/gardening.html
there also have an online publication at the above link
for "the ten steps to a successful vegetable garden"... might be helpful reading for anyone interested... about 10pages worth of info
regards
Named after Prince Otto Von Bismarck, the first German Chancellor, this Fan Palm from Madagascar is known for its medium growth and large bluish-green fronds. This palm is very hardy and loves the heat or coastal climate. The Bismarckia Nobilis is very similar to the Mexican Blue Palm, although, the leaves in the Bismarckia will get much larger than that of the Mexican Blue.
mexican blue palm
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=mexican blue palm&sa=N&tab=wi&um=1
http://ag.arizona.edu/pima/gardening/aridplants/Brahea_armata.html
when first saw the picture the Bismackia looked like something more common...
but it seems what i have seen might be this mexican blue palm... have noticed a residential landscape w/ this palm along where we ride our bikes.
btw here is a great link to UofA - cooperative extension - master gardener program
http://ag.arizona.edu/pima/gardening/gardening.html
there also have an online publication at the above link
for "the ten steps to a successful vegetable garden"... might be helpful reading for anyone interested... about 10pages worth of info
regards
K' Family Reef
New member
we have been trying to track down the name of a tree
which might be that royal poinciana... have noticed a few around town w/ a nice canopy and 'reddish' blooms... very tropical looking... want to plant it in the center of the walled courtyard that we are putting up in front of the house... actually though thought the trees that we have noticed had more of a 'dense' canopy/foliage...
that seems like a great shade tree to plant in this area
based on the size of these trees shown in the photos... and as was recom on one of the links - to do a group planting to completely form a canopy underneath...
not being from az
often wonder why there are not more 'group' tree planting seen around peoples homes... if we were designing a landscape/building a home... think it would start w/ (group) shade tree planting - here in the desert atleast...
on that note... sheraton up at I17/dunlap (right on the corner)
they have a nice TROPICAL looking landscape... and a real nice 'bougainvillea' wall around the outter (street) perimeter... then inside have some very mature rubber trees (huge)... various tropical 'elements'... several hibiscus trees etc... almost as if when one enters the place - its like entering an 'oasis' and almost forget that one is at dunlap/I17... around the back of the building they have a group planting of some type of tree (s) that creates an entirely 'shaded' canopy underneath... the entire back area of the sheraton then sits underneath this canopy... then they have orange trees planted all the way around the pool etc etc etc... might be worth the 'look' for anyone interested in that type of landscape/ideas etc.
regards
which might be that royal poinciana... have noticed a few around town w/ a nice canopy and 'reddish' blooms... very tropical looking... want to plant it in the center of the walled courtyard that we are putting up in front of the house... actually though thought the trees that we have noticed had more of a 'dense' canopy/foliage...
that seems like a great shade tree to plant in this area
based on the size of these trees shown in the photos... and as was recom on one of the links - to do a group planting to completely form a canopy underneath...
not being from az
often wonder why there are not more 'group' tree planting seen around peoples homes... if we were designing a landscape/building a home... think it would start w/ (group) shade tree planting - here in the desert atleast...
on that note... sheraton up at I17/dunlap (right on the corner)
they have a nice TROPICAL looking landscape... and a real nice 'bougainvillea' wall around the outter (street) perimeter... then inside have some very mature rubber trees (huge)... various tropical 'elements'... several hibiscus trees etc... almost as if when one enters the place - its like entering an 'oasis' and almost forget that one is at dunlap/I17... around the back of the building they have a group planting of some type of tree (s) that creates an entirely 'shaded' canopy underneath... the entire back area of the sheraton then sits underneath this canopy... then they have orange trees planted all the way around the pool etc etc etc... might be worth the 'look' for anyone interested in that type of landscape/ideas etc.
regards
Last edited:
NaClH20NMYVEIN
Red Dragons!
My silk floss was planted a last spring. As with all new plants and trees I put shade screen over them for their first summer. With minimal frost warnings this year it went thru the winter with no issues. I was told its the winter not the summer that gets silk floss trees. So far mine is looking good this summer, with only and ace bandage wrapped around it trunk to protect it from burning. I planted it as a 24" box and it is about 10-12 feet tall. Bakers nursery has a massive one, it has to be 50 feet tall, and in November it is amazing! It is in full sun until about 5-6pm.
The coral tree went into the ground about 11 months ago. It had its first bloom about a week ago and has a new one coming. It dropped it leaves when it got cold like the silk floss, but once it started getting warm it budded out again. It is in full sun until about 4pm It is only about 5 feet tall.
I forgot to list these guys on my tree list
Pink trumpet tree http://images.google.com/images?hl=...&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title
Mimosa Tree http://images.google.com/images?hl=...resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=mimosa+tree&spell=1
The coral tree went into the ground about 11 months ago. It had its first bloom about a week ago and has a new one coming. It dropped it leaves when it got cold like the silk floss, but once it started getting warm it budded out again. It is in full sun until about 4pm It is only about 5 feet tall.
I forgot to list these guys on my tree list
Pink trumpet tree http://images.google.com/images?hl=...&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title
Mimosa Tree http://images.google.com/images?hl=...resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=mimosa+tree&spell=1
NaClH20NMYVEIN
Red Dragons!
Here is my largest plumeria
<center>
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/evolust/CoralPictures1007-1.jpg" border="0" alt="plumie"></a><br /><br />
Its first bloom a few days away
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/evolust/CoralPictures1001-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Inflo"></a><br /><br />
</center>
Pink Trumpet
<center>
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/evolust/CoralPictures1006-1.jpg" border="0" alt="trumpet"></a><br /><br />
Mimosa
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/evolust/CoralPictures1005-1.jpg" border="0" alt="mimosa"></a><br /><br />
Silk Floss (center of picture)
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/evolust/CoralPictures1004-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Silk"></a><br /><br />
</center>
<center>
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/evolust/CoralPictures1007-1.jpg" border="0" alt="plumie"></a><br /><br />
Its first bloom a few days away
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/evolust/CoralPictures1001-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Inflo"></a><br /><br />
</center>
Pink Trumpet
<center>
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/evolust/CoralPictures1006-1.jpg" border="0" alt="trumpet"></a><br /><br />
Mimosa
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/evolust/CoralPictures1005-1.jpg" border="0" alt="mimosa"></a><br /><br />
Silk Floss (center of picture)
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/evolust/CoralPictures1004-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Silk"></a><br /><br />
</center>
NaClH20NMYVEIN
Red Dragons!
Coral tree with bloom on its way
<center>
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/evolust/CoralPictures1003-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Coral tree"></a><br /><br />
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/evolust/CoralPictures1002-1.jpg" border="0" alt="HYB"></a><br /><br />
</center>
I also forgot I have this tree as well
Hong kong Orchid http://images.google.com/images?hl=...&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title
<center>
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/evolust/CoralPictures1003-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Coral tree"></a><br /><br />
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/evolust/CoralPictures1002-1.jpg" border="0" alt="HYB"></a><br /><br />
</center>
I also forgot I have this tree as well
Hong kong Orchid http://images.google.com/images?hl=...&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title
Similar threads
