OT Global Warming

[capncapo]

Is anyone becoming as concerned about global warming as I am?

I was watching the news last evening and saw something that made it hit home for me. They were showing how the various plant growing zones have steadily moved north . The person in the interview was stating that plants that previously only survived in the south are now doing just fine in New Jersey. Quite the difference.

I know that some of the experts insist that this is just something that happens every few thousands of years or so but the majority insist that it is due to the increase in greenhouse gasses. I tend to believe them. I also beleieve that erroring on the side of safety is the better way to go.

I know that I'll never live to see any devastating effects of it but I'm becoming concerned that our kids will and certainly that our grandchilden will.

While the heading states that this subject is off topic it actually is connected to the hobby becasue coral reefs seem to be dying off at an alarming rate.

 

[jcjstl]

Personally I Believe that it is the natural course the earth follows (heat and cool) I had a professor that showed there are more green spaces now than 150 years ago... ( at least in this country) Thanks to reforestation and the push for conservation we have improved our enviroment I could be the fool but I truly dont believe in global warming.

 

[stlouisguy]

Hard part of global warming for me is we are looking at such a small time frame in relation to the earths age.

Changing climate maybe, but could just be natural course. I don't think looking at 150 years even comes even close to a study in relation to the earths age. Thats just a blink of an eye

 

[frenchie]

i watched something late night about how earth changes its axis or angle in which it spins and it gradually changes over thousands of years a couple of degrees on its angle in which it rotates so the earth gradually has a cool down or ice age and than thousand years later a thaw and that there is no such thing as global warming that its just a natural thaw of the earth. And thats what happens when you stay up to late when there is nothing on tv

 

[capncapo]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8921960#post8921960 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jcjstl
Personally I Believe that it is the natural course the earth follows (heat and cool) I had a professor that showed there are more green spaces now than 150 years ago... ( at least in this country) Thanks to reforestation and the push for conservation we have improved our enviroment I could be the fool but I truly dont believe in global warming.

Green places yes....but look at what's going on with the polar ice caps. They may be green too soon.

I definitely believe that the earth goes through changes but it seems that the changes may be occuring a bit more rapidly than the previous ones.

 

[DrBDC]

And from what a lot of the scientists say, it actually happens in spurts vs. gradual. Remember in the 70's the ice age was coming.

 

[DrBDC]

But, we should be doing everything we can. A basic rule we teach our scouts is to leave a campsite better than when you got there. Same should be the rule for our lives.

 

[capncapo]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8922229#post8922229 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DrBDC
But, we should be doing everything we can. A basic rule we teach our scouts is to leave a campsite better than when you got there. Same should be the rule for our lives.

My thoughts exactly Roy.

 

[frenchie]

i think there are worse things that will happen than global warming if there is a such thing as global warming, like something bigger like supervolcanoes like under yellowstone or indonesia that will be an instant ice age it is supposely over due for an eruption according to some scientist that is what would worry me more

 

[capncapo]

From what I gather, if another super volcano erupted there would be very few , if any, people around to worry about an ice age.

 

[frenchie]

i think an initial blast supposed to from what scientist say will have immediate affect on a 600 mile radius around yellow stone(death from hot ash and gases) than after that its up to everyone on making it through an ice age

 

[zt444a]

Which soort of goes back to what Roy was talking about in leaving a camp site better than you found it. The weather has even been whacked in Alaska, as many places do not get as cold, or as much snow as usual.

The waters get warmer, El Nino weather patterns, just all of the disruptions in the food chain that that will cause. Scary stuff if you stop and consider all of the ramifications.

 

[Dert42]

i totally believe global warming is happening and i totally think it's too late to reverse the process.

 

[rams]

All I have to say is I hope the price of wood stays down. I have some projects I would like to get done this year.

Too many big hurricanes...

 

[stlouisguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8922858#post8922858 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dert42
i totally believe global warming is happening and i totally think it's too late to reverse the process.

Totally?

 

[olemos]

Just a taught for your mind, especially for the ones that say that 150 years is to short to measure changes in in earth.
Well it is in our life time that the industrial revaluation has exploded, up till now there has not been a generation to produce as many chemicals and pollution like the ones in the last 150 years.
So if we are doing things extremely different then past generations, I would not be surprised that the Earth is acting now extremely different then it did in the past.

 

[sirreal63]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8922873#post8922873 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ramtheory
All I have to say is I hope the price of wood stays down. I have some projects I would like to get done this year.

Too many big hurricanes...

Hush...I need the price of lumber to go up up up!!!! I want another nice fat bonus check this year.

 

[Dert42]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8922874#post8922874 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stlouisguy
Totally?

Totally. <--- period to imply emphasis!

 

[jcjstl]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8922901#post8922901 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by olemos
Just a taught for your mind, especially for the ones that say that 150 years is to short to measure changes in in earth.
Well it is in our life time that the industrial revaluation has exploded, up till now there has not been a generation to produce as many chemicals and pollution like the ones in the last 150 years.
So if we are doing things extremely different then past generations, I would not be surprised that the Earth is acting now extremely different then it did in the past.

That is exactly what I was trying to say. We have already improved what our past generation has messed up...and if you want to believe some reports, cow farts are more to blame than our cars

 

[capncapo]

We may have improved some things here but in developing nations and China, it's a different story. It's definitely a global problem vs. a US problem.